Thread fills me with a little hope that maybe the PVP elite do have them same desire to help others as the PVE elite did back in the day. I was carried to Atheon by guys willing to help others, and even those guys hadn't figured out how to kill him on their own. The had watched, learned from and copied the true vanguard who had figured it out for themselves. Making it to the lighthouse doesn't make you good, I'm proof of that. I play trials for fun because I enjoy it even though I'm losing badly. Too many who've completed flawless think git gud is a compulsory answer to any post on the trials. Well if all the scrubs like me stopped playing it, a good number would find getting there much more difficult in the future. Maybe even find out that they're level 2 scrubs themselves :-). Good post dude, even if it won't fly.