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Edited by Britton:
6/11/2015 2:09:18 AM
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What do you think happens when you take charge of a situation?
I'm saying I agree with you lol
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Edited by SSG ACM: 6/11/2015 2:33:32 AM[quote]What do you think happens when you take charge of a situation?[/quote]It depends on the situation and on who the individual is.[quote]I'm saying I agree with you lol[/quote]I feel as if I'm never going to be on equal ends with you when it comes to religion. Don't feel that I'm being hostile. It just feels as if it was always meant to be. Your history defines you, and your current state applies it. If it comes to agreeing with you on anything political or economic, our views may be the same or quite similar, but I disagree with how you present yourself with those that actually possess true religious views as I do. You need to fix your delivery and approach if you want any truly religious person to cooperate with you.[spoiler]I'm not Lol-ing.[/spoiler]
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I don't care if you don't like my delivery, or my approach.
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Edited by SSG ACM: 6/11/2015 3:31:34 AMThe point is not for you to approve of what I think. My point is that you need to become all things to all people so that you may understand how to convince them.
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No I do not. I can only be one thing, myself. If you don't like me, I'm not going to change to appease you.
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Then how are you going to convince those who obviously disagree with you if you are unwilling to understand them?
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I can understand you without changing who I am.
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Edited by SSG ACM: 6/11/2015 4:11:32 AMThe point is not for you to literally change your opinion or personality, but you need to understand you need to change your approach and delivery. You need to adapt to your surroundings in order to dominate or convince individuals without them knowing that you may completely disagree with their views. Everyone is different. Treating everyone the same as you are and with the same approach as you do will get you no where with specific individuals. You'll eventually be unconvincing toward that individual.[spoiler]Try to comprehend.[/spoiler]
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I get it, I just do not agree. Playing mind games and trying to be indirect and passively disagree, is to me, a cowardly way of handling an argument. If I disagree, I will tell you straight to your face, declare my reasoning and challenge you to rebut it. Aggressive? Yes. Can I come off as an asshole? Yes. Do I care? No.
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Then what's the point of argument if you don't intend to win?
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To inspire the other person to learn something.
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Edited by SSG ACM: 6/13/2015 5:52:48 PM[quote]Playing mind games and trying to be indirect and passively disagree, is to me, a cowardly way of handling an argument.[/quote]Actually, the tactic is very, very effective. It's obviously not necessary when you already have the individual in a cooperative state. I enjoy argument, but only to the extent of explaining how. Doing so, I have grown accustomed to almost any individual in my physical and digital life. To say that it is cowardly is to say that you are admittedly blind to these tactics, but I don't expect you to understand since you already parade around with your stiffen neck while at the same time stiffening or at least attempting to stiffen the necks of any other person who doesn't sync with your opinion.[quote]If I disagree, I will tell you straight to your face...[/quote]Doing so will automatically cause one to be offended and refuse to communicate with you, which happens often among Christians.[quote]...declare my reasoning and challenge you to rebut it.[/quote]What?[quote]Aggressive? Yes. Can I come off as an asshole? Yes. Do I care? No.[/quote]It's almost as if you want to act as an imbecile toward those individuals.
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What part of "I don't care if I offend you" don't you understand?
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The part that says "I don't care" makes you seem a little irrational.
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It's completely rational
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(1) Saying that it's rational (your acceptance of willingly pissing people off) with no obvious evidence is what makes your statement completely irrational; therefore, you have formed a bias opinion. (2) Furthermore, you stated, "I don't care," which shows to prove you're not aiming to convince individuals but rather only to annoy those specific people. Troll much?
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Edited by Britton: 6/11/2015 6:43:14 PMIts rational because emotions don't run the world, and we need to stop acting like they do. If something offends you, you need to figure out if that's even reasonable before I need to be concerned about it. Why do I need to care if something offends you? Why does anyone? Nobody owes you anything. Nobody is obligated to value your opinion, you must show that your opinion is valuable. This whole attitude of "let everyone live in their own dream land because the real world might be too much" is absurd. A persons emotions and thoughts on a matter, especially if they are offended or simply don't like something, have no implied value. The value is derived from what that opinion, thought, or feeling is, not merely its existence. I can aim to convince a person and still not care if that upsets them. You're incorrectly correlating things.
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Edited by SSG ACM: 6/11/2015 8:27:16 PM[quote]It's rational because emotions don't run the world, and we need to stop acting like they do.[/quote]Agreed. The world should be under the providence of civil ordinance, conscience, and family.[quote]If something offends you, you need to figure out if that's even reasonable before I need to be concerned about it.[/quote]It doesn't matter if you intend to be offensive in the first place.[quote]Why do I need to care if something offends you?[/quote]Because first impressions are everything. [quote]Why does anyone?[/quote]You should know this answer:[spoiler]Because we are sinful.[/spoiler][quote]Nobody owes you anything.[/quote]And? I didn't expect you to give me anything.[quote]Nobody is obligated to value your opinion...[/quote]I completely disagree. My sons are to value my opinion. My wife is to value my opinion. My parents are to value my opinion. Why? Conscience! Living with your mentality is not only depressing, but it is also suicidal.[quote]...you must show that your opinion is valuable.[/quote]Only to those that are not obligated.[quote]This whole attitude of "let everyone live in their own dream land because the real world might be too much" is absurd.[/quote]Agreed.[quote]A person's emotions and thoughts on a matter, especially if they are offended or simply don't like something, have no implied value.[/quote]"You are a sad and strange, little man, and you have my pity."[quote]The value is derived from what that opinion, thought, or feeling is, not merely its existence.[/quote]Okay...and?[quote]I can aim to convince a person and still not care if that upsets them.[/quote]*chuckles* Obviously not.[quote]You're incorrectly correlating things.[/quote]What then?
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Edited by Britton: 6/11/2015 8:40:44 PMIf you have a point to make in that reply you didn't make it. [spoiler]there is no need to create an unneeded wall of text. You can easily say "I agree/disagree with you, with the exception of _____ and here's why" your format you use to reply is unnecessary, convoluted, is terrible at getting your point across and unnecessarily nitpicky.[/spoiler]
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It's the Internet version of the gish gallop.
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Edited by SSG ACM: 6/14/2015 6:14:46 PMAs I said, you have horrible inferring skills.[spoiler]Would you rather I made every little point about your statement that I disagree with kept within their own individual reply? I can go on indefinitely on almost any topic. That's why I have chosen to quote what you just stated and reply to that statement in one reply since you favor to change the topic in almost every response or in what you call a rebuttal. [/spoiler]
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I just refuse to assume your point for you when you can easily just state it directly, instead of beating around the bush.
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My point was made in black-and-white responses two replies ago, showing you my disagreements and agreements.
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Well then were done here. I made my point.
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Giving up? And I thought you were the sort of person who thought with the mentality that "perseverance prevails," evidently not. Your sort of persona exhibits this bias mentality not only in history but also in your current character.[spoiler]*atheist is speechless*[/spoiler]
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Edited by Britton: 6/11/2015 9:24:03 PMNah, youre just not worth my time right now.
