PvP: LDR I have several, some with final round, some with ext mag, some with surplus, blah blah blah... It hits hard & has off the chart stability [spoiler]first true love is praedyths, my lord how fun is that thing![/spoiler] PvE: Efriditees, have 3 one for each element burn. All with ext mag & outlaw(ish) perk, some with firefly others with final round blah blah blah. Hits as hard as any of the snipers & with 6 in mag it's better than icebreaker for most everything!