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I and my money are leaving Destiny on the 9th.
Sure, Bungie showed us Etheric Light and how we could use it to upgrade whatever weapons/armors we wanted in order to finally (after 9 months of the game being out...) build the Guardian that we wanted.
Problem is; I would have skipped the House of Disappointment entirely had they bothered to mention that said Etheric Light would only be available to the hardcore community of twelve-year-old kids who can grind out 12+ hours per day during summer break.
I have a gorgeous wife, two great kids, a job I like, and other responsibilities that all come together to make up a great life. For the person like me who has other responsibilities, Bungie has made the Etheric Light nigh impossible to get.
On top of that, they've made it even more difficult to find people to play with as the elitism and alienation they are supporting. By designing the PoE and ToO as they have; no one on the LFG groups wants a 33 on their team, even if that 33 does have a fully maxed 365 Gjallarhorn on all three characters. They only want 34's, but one cannot get to 34 without going through the PoE toughest two settings. But then we're back to the reality that one needs to find a team to even attempt the bullet-sponge-hell that is the 34 & 35, but then it cycles to... you get the idea.
Never before in over thirty years (30+!!!) of gaming have I seen one company put so many roadblocks to progression in front of such a large majority of their players.
Does Bungie think somehow, that the miniscule army of twelve year old kids who make up the "hardcore" wing of the Destiny population will really keep their game afloat? Does Bungie even remotely recognize the simple fact that over 90% of their players fall into the "casual" range?
So they make this Etheric Light for the described purpose, then institute walls that keep most of the player base from ever getting it.
Not only have similar practices been proven to destroy companies, it has been proven in study after study to actually drive people away from products that have done the same thing.
As it is going to do to me on Tuesday. As it has been doing to be for months now.
Come the 9th, my Destiny play time slows to a trickle. I will grind out the Iron Banner for this weekend to get one of my Warlocks to 34, and will have one more piece of Light to get my beloved Vision of Confluence to 365. After that, my other two Warlocks are being deleted. I simply do not have anywhere near the time to grind out enough Light to keep up three Warlocks at max level. Just thinking about the sheer number of hours [b]per day[/b] that I'd have to pump into Destiny to achieve that... I'd have to quit my job amongst a whole host of other actions just to free up the time to make sure I could get that much Light.
Bungie wants to say that Destiny is "ambitious". But how ambitious of an idea is it really when the vast majority of your players are all but locked out of content simply because you wanted to make a [b]crafting material[/b] so difficult to get that it drives people away?
Nope. Not me. These business practices are a direct insult to the people who have lives/jobs/families outside of this game. Funny though; those people you are alienating are also the people who make the money that those squealing brats have to beg for to purchase your products, Bungie. Without the responsible people purchasing you game for themselves and for the kids, who is left to purchase your products?
The "casual" gamers make up most of your profits/sales, Bungie; yet you institute dedicated design like this to lock out those same people by making a [b]crafting material[/b] so difficult to get that most have no hope of ever getting it?
See you on Tuesday, Bungie. No, actually, no I won't... for the fist time since the game launched, I won't be in Destiny for the reset. There's too many great games coming out to spend that much time on these failed business practices.
The Elder Scrolls Online
The Witcher 3
Fallout 4
I'm not saying that these games will "kill" Destiny. But what's the point of coming into Destiny when those three examples above are much better at rewarding both casual and hardcore gamers? Developers who actually listen and interact with their gamers?
In the end, I have to extend a hand of congratulations, Bungie.
Truly you have done a remarkable job of chasing away the main sources of your company's revenue. The people with jobs.
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This has always been the biggest paradox with the game. Bungie dumbed everything down. They made every simple, they geared the gameplay to the casual player. Yet, to truly get the most out the game, It literally requires hundreds and hundreds of hours of commitment. And every few months, they move the goalposts further and further away. I personally haven't touched the game since the day HoW launched, and had been gone for some time before that. Based on what you're saying, I have no reason to even turn the game on. I only have 32s still, so I'm way behind, even though I was a day one player. The game is a joke, Bungie is a joke, and they won't get another dime from me
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Filthy casuals ruin games like destiny. Git gud scrub
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I dont know why i jus dont believe you have a hot wife or two kids. Sorry You jus seem like such a bitch i cant comprehend any girl marrying you much less f****** you twice
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but what would you do if it was not an endless grind
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I'm not trying to be rude or a douche to you sir, but my goodness it's very easy to get etheric light. It takes 45 minutes to do 34 PoE and frankly, if you don't have that kind of time, then none of those games are going to appeal to you. It takes even less than that to get the packages from ToO. Not to mention, you can stop and start how you want. I believe your story of not having people play with you because you're level 33 is an isolated event. Most players from Destinylfg.com wouldn't have a problem taking you on the prisons. Hell I wouldn't mind taking you if you needed it. What I'm saying is that, I don't think you're really trying to make this work for you. That you're quitting too soon or sooner than I would have.
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I dont like how bungie is managing destiny, but the truth is that they made this game for squeakers. Thats y its rated teen, so that kids with lots of free time can play huge amounts. I guess it sucks for u, but thats how they designed the game. My problem with them is stuff like patching the game and slow change, not that stuff is too hard to get in game. But then again i do play a lot so
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You can do one Lvl 32 POE a week for a month and get Lvl 34. That's about 2.5 hours out of an entire month. Also, nightfalls can drop EL as well. The drop rate for me in nightfalls is 1 EL out of 7 nightfalls. Bungie did make it possible for the casual gamer to get to Lvl 34 within a month. They made it so you don't HAVE to grind ToO or high level Poe. I think it would be lame if anyone could get to max level without having to put any time in.
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I know you will have left by now; but by chance you are still here I am willing to help you with PoE and getting etheric light. I know there is a lot of elitism on the forums and how you have real life responsibilities but of you ever have free time let me know. I'm on x360 though, so that may be a problem.
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Edited by pandafatman146: 6/28/2015 2:02:30 AMGood points, well said! Though I think the 'hard core' element are adult males, not kids. In fact, i think the majority of Guardians are adult males, too! Least , that's been my experience since way back when! I am also getting bored with having to grind PoE for etheric light...it ain't fun at all, and it is causing me to ponder... We all love Destiny and want, nay, hope, they (Bungle/innactivision) will put things in order - but, it seems, the responsible Guardians' comments/feedback/pleas/entreaties are falling on stoney ground. If you want some help with PoE - ping me!
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This game was designed to suck all the time possible from gamers. The bullshit RNG system is addictive like gambling. Surprised companies are allowed to get away with shit like that, but whatever makes money I guess.
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TL DR It takes me less than half an hour to do 34 Poe. Glad you're quitting. Pansy
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It's not that hard...and if it was easy then where would the sense of achievement come from??? Doing something a 5 year old could do in his sleep??? PoE takes half an hour, nightfalls go quicker than that, and just make your own lfg posts...plenty of people willing to help out and avoid the whole 12 year old elitist "gally only but we don't have one" community
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U are right. Enjoy ur live. Wish u and ur family all the best in the world. U will see destiny is broken. I stopped 5 month ago. An hey take the time to come back to forum. It is always funny.
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Etheric light is actually not that hard to obtain you just need lots of time though.
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I'm a working teenager, still in school and still have a summer vacation and only put in hours to this game when I have nothing better to do
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The best part of that is that NOW Destiny gets to compete with Planetside 2 that is not only FREE TO DOWNLOAD on PS4 but also doesn't require PS Plus to play. So how Bungie can justify the price tag of all this stuff is just beyond me. And for the Xbox One players? HALO--blam!-ING-FIVE. Period. I'm already expecting the slew of Youtube videos that'll have Halo 5 vs. Destiny, LOL!
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Im on xbox one. If you are too and need help with lvl 34 poe you can msg me
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You'll be back... ...and we'll be waiting... ...with Thorns.
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Edited by LONE RONIN2012: 6/9/2015 5:00:26 PMBump. I am sure the next DLC will be more of the same. All development money put into awesome video advertising, and near nothing into game development. As you rehash through old areas already played with new reskinned bullet sponges.
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Edited by MatrixasISeeFit: 6/11/2015 5:42:50 PM[b]'The Witcher 3's' Business Model Is A Revolution[/b] I can confirm the Witcher 3 and CD Projekt Red are amazing. CDPR devs are very active on twitter and are humble nice guys as well.