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Edited by MiltonTheMango: 6/4/2015 8:29:28 AM
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Why shouldn't thorn be nerfed in pvp (Resonable discussion)

I'm worried it being nerfed to oblivion

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It's my crutch in pvp

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I 'think' it's balanced

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It should be nerfed

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Other (comment below)

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Thorn is much better than every single weapon in pvp and if you believe in a balanced pvp you should want a nerf. If u don't tell me why. Please have well though out answers and no shit like 'git gud'. Be sensible Edit: please try be constructive. I want this to be a discussion not people crying and moaning everywhere Edit: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L7FV9l4hXo2tHD3XlFUp854XvJIwTKFIPvASLduPPS4/htmlview?pli=1 Have a look at this

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  • My problem with nerfing it would be that I haven't seen many suggestions that wouldn't make it worse than most legendaries. Take it so DOT doesn't kill you and you have just taken away the signature perk. If I remember right the impact and ROF are similar to word of crota. So it would be two head shots and a body shot without DOT to kill. So I could just use a different hand cannon from the same lower impact/higher ROF archetype and actually get to use all the perks. Reducing ROF means it now falls into the middle impact style hand cannon fire rate but with less impact. Means you would get out gunned and mostly get post mortem kills. Reducing range could work. It does have a lot of range of you spec for it. Maybe too much, though I've never really had a big issue there. Combine that with a slight reduction to reload speed so people can't spam shots and it might be a viable reduction. Doesn't help the main complaint that it is a two shot kill, but means it isn't as viable in some situations. The only other thing I can think would be to make it two body shots and a headshot to kill with DOT. Puts it on the same level shot wise as mid impact hand cannons, but with the faster ROF means you would have a slightly faster TTK. This would probably mean lowering the damage for the DOT, but increasing the length to an extra tick. Not a great option because it makes it less viable than a lot of the hand cannons in that class at that point. So yeah, most nerfs would probably hurt the gun way too much. It's not so easy to do without ending up with thorn going the way of auto rifles.

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