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PETITION: BAN PRE HoW Legendaries From Crucible

That's fair.

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Nah I Enjoy Using Unobtainable Weapons Unfairly

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Makes No Difference To Me.

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This is pretty messed up. People should not have snipers with final round while others cannot obtain a gun with that perk. Once more, how is it fair for players to use felwinter's with hammer forged while others need to rely on reinforced barrel? Removing field scout is a big slap in the face for a majority of players. There's also a glitch to switch this perk with another before using a special ammo crate so you can get more ammo. Furthermore, pre-HoW IB guns can be re-rolled for their previous perk rolls, while current IB guns cannot receive the same benefits. [b][i][u]THATS MESSED UP!![/u][/i][/b] edit* - This does not have to apply to raid weapons, since they are obtainable and remain unaltered. edit 2* - why are all of you butt hurt? over a few crucible weapons I'm receiving threats? Smh edit 3* - It seems like without your weapons, you're all just defenseless. What a shame. edit 4* - hurry guys lets have this happen before the next ToO. edit 5* - Guys, this is only for crucible. If a special snowflake 'earned' his gun, then he's entitled to use it for PvE or let it sit in the vault like a collection should be - unused.

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  • Edited by WarpPigeon: 6/5/2015 8:28:04 AM
    I have had my Jolders hammer from the first or second ever iron banner (hence why its level 300!), it dropped with the stats it has now because there was no re-rolling and i have never dared risk it as its my go to gun for all PVE and PVP content that doesn't require rocket launchers or damage burns for void/arc. it comes with smart drift control, rangefinder, fieldscout and reactive reload. (its on my warlock) why should i have my gun changed because it cant be received in its current form anymore? it makes it unique and its special to me having been with me so long. should i also have my Timurs lash changed because its icon is the old icon not the new icon. or how about my high lord fixer, its no longer available and no current guns have a reload speed that could possibly match it. maybe my hunter should not be allowed to wear the old style new monarchy cloak because it cant be gotten now either? if you go down this road where do you stop. I could roll my Efireets spear right now and get final round. but i don't because i like its current perks. why do i want to fire off 2 bullets just to get a garanteed kill with the last bullet. sure maybe in trials its a little OP but its also wasting a lot of ammo. and in 6v6 control games its even more of a disadvantage

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  • While I respect different opinions and views, I must disagree. With the exception of the iron banner weapons (re roll stat weapons) getting a legendary to drop with the right stats and perks was like winning the lottery. In the vanilla game you would cheer when it happened! Taking something from players is never a good look. I propose that final round is changed so it does bonus "critical damage" instead of just a bonus to damage. The point of this would be to make snipers more effective against shielded enemies and enemies with bonus armour from using a super. I also propose a smaller ammo reserve for all shotguns. Eg. A total of 6 max ammo for Felwinters. You didn't touch on it but my idea for Thorn - DoT damage stops if the wielder is killed OR DoT only procs on critical damage. PvP fixed.

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  • Edited by JT-Rex-: 6/5/2015 8:16:22 AM
    Does anyone actually realise you can still get final round on a sniper. I rolled it on my spear yesterday. I believe its the combination of armor piercing rounds and final round that cant appear together, however I rolled high calibre rounds with final round Edit. Only jus read pre how guns can roll previous combinations of perks, It is a pre how efrideet spear i own tho so that may be the reason I got final round, I may try to get armor piercing and final round later. Maybe ill try for it on a how sniper this afternoon to see if it definitely is impossible. Only need new titan boots for all new exotic armor so I can waste a fair amount of motes lol

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  • Final round could not possible change the game enough to matter. I get head shots all the time then use final round as a bonus at end of clip. Why should It be removed? Because you cant get it?

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    • Somebody lock this thread. This has got to be one of the most retarded suggestions, ever. Of all time.

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    • You say it is not fair that people can't get perks like Final Round on snipers anymore. Everyone had the chance to get it but it is their own fault they didn't take the opportunity.

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    • No weapon should be banned from any part of Destiny.

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    • Bias poll learn how to question

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    • So because I use my TDB Red Hand, it should be banned from crucible? Okay. Makes tons of sense. I mean, [b][i][u]punishing veteran players for using weapons they obtained before other players? My god, that's so fair, right?[/u][/i][/b]

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    • Sorry I grinder and you didn't. But I should be punished sounds cool. Quit crying.

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    • You can still get vanilla and TDB weapons from engrams....as for the perks that no longer exist, get the fūck over it.

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    • Nee naw, nee naw. "Did somebody order a waaaambulance?"

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    • Not anyone's fault that you're a noob. Stop crying.

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    • Biased polls and whiny little bitches get muted

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    • This is completely ridiculous. You can still obtain some of those weapons. Just do either Roc or Tiger strikes and the engrams have a chance (albeit a very low chance) to turn into either vanilla weapons or TDB weapons. Therefore you could get say a Judgement with hammer forged and field scout.

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    • Why should I be banned from using a gun that I collected?

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    • Well maybe you should have kept a few old guns instead of sharding them

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    • This made me facepalm so hard I almost got whiplash.

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    • So since I have been playing from the start I shouldn't be able to use my shadow price why? Cause you didn't get it? Then you should have played at the start

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    • Are you retarded? Well -blam!- might as well remove elements from raid primaries, and while we are at it exotic perks. Lets not forget the new exotics we should make them all do 1 dmg too. Congrats dude, you can -blam!-ing cry about something not being fair. Get over it. Life isn't fair.

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      • I don't agree with the post at all but I do kinda think they should have just balanced the old guns and their perks instead of leaving some players with outdated, overpowered and now unobtainable weapon combos that they can continue to abuse online.

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        • First a sniper with final round..... Hhhhhmmmmm...... Apparently u don't raid of else u would have of at least know about a little sniper that drops from VoG. Second ur only other complaint listed is felwinthers lie if u need that shotgun so bad the u r terrible. I run with a two to the morgue and I destroy that felwinthers. So either u need to expand ur horizons and branch out and raid and do other things besides crucible. Or please turn ur game off, eject it from ur system, and snap it in half. There problem solved.

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          • People also complain about: -Thorn in crucible -Gjallarhorn in crucible -Not having Gjallarhorn -Suros being overpowered -Suros needing a re-buff -Vex being overpowered -Vex needing a re-buff -Fist of Havoc -Scorch Melee -Bladedancer -Golden Gun -Voidwalkers super -Titan's grenades -Helm of Saint-14 & Bubble combo -Warlocks fusion grenades -Any grenade that existed rather -Felwinters lie -Shotguns in general -Crota being broken -No vault space -Rockets in crucible -Lmgs in crucible -Heavy ammo being too constant in crucible -Heavy ammo being too few in crucible -Special ammo being too few in crucible -Special ammo being too plenty in crucible -Bloom in crucible -Camping in crucible -Others being better than them in crucible -Others being worse than them in crucible -AFK-ers (granted that's worth a complaint) -The loot system -Getting a really good weapon meanwhile they wanted a No Land Beyond because it's the only exotic they need. -No Land Beyond being the worst weapon ever. -When killed by No Land Beyond they complain -Going invisible as a hunter in general -Blink jumping as hunter/warlock -Blink shotgunning -Titans jumping higher than hunters -Titans not having enough health because they're the tank class. -Warlocks need protection as they self-res -There not being bumpers on the edges of crucible maps because they walk off too often -Snipers in crucible -The Last Word being overpowered in crucible -Red Death being overpowered in crucible -Stranger's rifle being too overpowered in crucible -Any pulse rifle in crucible being too overpowered -Xur selling something good -Xur selling something bad -Xurning vs Earning -Nechrochasm needing a buff -Auto Rifles needing a nerf -Auto rifles needing a buff -Thorn's exotic bounty being too hard to try and work towards -Master Rahool not giving them everything they ever wanted in life -Eris in general -Kill target public events being too hard -Heavy ammo glitch being used at crota -Heavy ammo glitch not being used at crota -Map rotation -Iron Banner armor being lvl 32 even though they never do it because it requires much more time and effort and skill to get compared to a raid. -Nightfall rewards being terrible -Complain about the modifiers in the Nightfalls making the nightfall what its supposed to be. A challenge. -Error codes (Yes they are annoying but it is something people complain about so it fits in this list) -Confluxes in Vault of Glass being too hard -Hobgoblins in general -Raid Sparrows not being cool enough to be a raid sparrow -The recruitment section only asking for 32's with gjallarhorn (yes that is a stupid requirement but once again people complain) -Omnigul's strike -Omnigul's scream -Cheating a piece of a raid -Not cheating a piece of a raid -There not being a trading system -Fatebringer being too overpowered in general so it should stay at 300 -Fatebringer needing to be upgraded to 365 -Crucible being stupid in general -Titan Bubbles being overpowered -Shoulder Charge in crucible -No raid being in HoW DLC. -Upon HoW dropping someone else has stated that the new exotic armor sets will cause more complaints as to each character will get buffs and make their class more powerful. -Guardian armor looking the same at lvl 32 (HoW will change all of that yayyy!) -Complaints about people complaining. (I'm not complaining Lol just making a list for people's enjoyment.) -People capturing closest point at the start of a control match. (Occurred a lot on the forums during last Iron Banner) -Orbit taking too long -The younger ages (squeakers as it's called)playing Destiny -No trading system -The apparent 19% of those who've played Destiny on the PlayStation completing a raid -Not having a helmet in tower -Having a helmet in tower (even though it's optional) -Being unable to change a characters appearance after creating their character -Bungie fixing Iron Banner Glitch (buying items at start of Iron Banner) -Bounty for killing 2 targets with a fusion rifle burst 20 times -Trying to send an invite to someone with an extremely long/crazy "xXSo0purxC0o1kiDXx"(made up Lol) after posting an LFG -When you post on LFG, " Send message in game to xXSo0purxC0o1liDXx for invite and they reply to your post on the forums instead -Blues from legendary engrams, shards and energies from legendary engramarhorn -Suros being overpowered -Suros needing a re-buff -Vex being overpowered -Vex needing a re-buff -Fist of Havoc -Scorch Melee -Bladedancer -Golden Gun -Voidwalkers super -Titan's grenades -Helm of Saint-14 & Bubble combo -Warlocks fusion grenades -Any grenade that existed rather -Felwinters lie -Shotguns in general -Crota being broken -No vault space -Rockets in crucible -Lmgs in crucible -Heavy ammo being too constant in crucible -Heavy ammo being too few in crucible -Special ammo being too few in crucible -Special ammo being too plenty in crucible -Bloom in crucible -Camping in crucible -Others being better than them in crucible -Others being worse than them in crucible -AFK-ers (granted that's worth a complaint) -The loot system -Getting a really good weapon meanwhile they wanted a No Land Beyond because it's the only exotic they need. -No Land Beyond being the worst weapon ever. -When killed by No Land Beyond they complain -Going invisible as a hunter in general -Blink jumping as hunter/warlock -Blink shotgunning -Titans jumping higher than hunters -Titans not having enough health because they're the tank class. -Warlocks need protection as they self-res -There not being bumpers on the edges of crucible maps because they walk off too often -Snipers in crucible -The Last Word being overpowered in crucible -Red Death being overpowered in crucible -Stranger's rifle being too overpowered in crucible -Any pulse rifle in crucible being too overpowered -Xur selling something good -Xur selling something bad -Xurning vs Earning -Nechrochasm needing a buff -Auto Rifles needing a nerf -Auto rifles needing a buff -Thorn's exotic bounty being too hard to try and work towards -Master Rahool not giving them everything they ever wanted in life -Eris in general -Kill target public events being too hard -Heavy ammo glitch being used at crota -Heavy ammo glitch not being used at crota -Map rotation -Iron Banner armor being lvl 32 even though they never do it because it requires much more time and effort and skill to get compared to a raid. -Nightfall rewards being terrible -Complain about the modifiers in the Nightfalls making the nightfall what its supposed to be. A challenge. -Error codes (Yes they are annoying but it is something people complain about so it fits in this list) -Confluxes in Vault of Glass being too hard -Hobgoblins in general -Raid Sparrows not being cool enough to be a raid sparrow -The recruitment section only asking for 32's with gjallarhorn (yes that is a stupid requirement but once again people complain) -Omnigul's strike -Omnigul's scream -Cheating a piece of a raid -Not cheating a piece of a raid -There not being a trading system -Fatebringer being too overpowered in general so it should stay at 300 -Fatebringer needing to be upgraded to 365 -Crucible being stupid in general -Titan Bubbles being overpowered -Shoulder Charge in crucible -No raid being in HoW DLC. -Upon HoW dropping someone else has stated that the new exotic armor sets will cause more complaints as to each character will get buffs and make their class more powerful. -Guardian armor looking the same at lvl 32 (HoW will change all of that yayyy!) -Complaints about people complaining. (I'm not complaining Lol just making a list for people's enjoyment.) -People capturing closest point at the start of a control match. (Occurred a lot on the forums during last Iron Banner) -Orbit taking too long -The younger ages (squeakers as it's called)playing Destiny -No trading system -The apparent 19% of those who've played Destiny on the PlayStation completing a raid -Not having a helmet in tower -Having a helmet in tower (even though it's optional) -Being unable to change a characters appearance after creating their character -Bungie fixing Iron Banner Glitch (buying items at start of Iron Banner) -Bounty for killing 2 targets with a fusion rifle burst 20 times -Trying to send an invite to someone with an extremely long/crazy "xXSo0purxC0o1kiDXx"(made up Lol) after posting an LFG -When you post on LFG, " Send message in game to xXSo0purxC0o1liDXx for invite and they reply to your post on the forums instead -Blues from legendary engrams, shards and energies from legendary engram -PoE 32 is much to hard! -PoE 34 is way to hard! -PoE 35 is insane to hard! -No checkpoints in POE? -Dismantling 365 weapons = motes of lights!? -Etheric light is too rare on pve -Etheric light is too easy for pvp players - PoE helmet before legs is unfair to warlock! -Treasure keys r too rare to get! -Treasure keys after update are too easy to get! -Lvl 34's are too OP in iron banner.

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            • [quote]you never go full retarded[/quote]

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            • You can still get felwinters from iron banner drops

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