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Edited by Driveby40:
6/1/2015 10:59:22 PM
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PoE weapons need a serious rework!
Sign below if you believe the PoE weapons need a serious rework: allow me to explain why:
All other end game raid weapons for example, have their bonus perks such as hive disruptive, oracle disruptor in a separate perk slot.
For example Fatebringer has two perks in the most important columns; outlaw and firefly; however the PoE weapons have the most powerful perk slot replaced with something lackluster at best and useless at worst.
For example: An arc max impact fusion rifle with hidden hand Normal column two perks and Shank Burn... Let's discuss this weapon:
Arc does not match the shield color of shanks in nightfalls where bonus damage might be barely useful.
Shanks die in one hit from fusion rifles, let alone a high impact archetype fusion rifle.
Conclusion: this perk is absolutely useless. This weapon is totally subpar to the vendor version which can be rolled to obtain hidden hand and another perk that has utility.
Result: the PoE fusion, an end game weapon is arguably the worst fusion rifle in the game.
On another side: even with bonus damage to fallen, this perk is still subpar to other perks that could be in that slot. This perk should not be removed but moved to a different slot totally separate from the standard perks like oracle disruptor and hive disruptor. For example, I would much rather have crowd control instead which applies beyond the few small circumstances that bonus fallen damage would be useful in. Even in the PoE, you rarely face fallen!
What makes me sad: it seems that these perks were the easy way out for making the weapons "unique." However they are in no way unique or special like white nail on the black hammer, or even phantom gift which was unique before the DLC. Weapons like HoC, Fatebringer, Praedyth's Timepiece, etc all have unique perk combinations; for example you cannot re-roll a rocket with both tracking and cluster bombs, and no other Handcannon has firefly. This feature makes weapons using already used perks still unique and special. Instead we have a set of end game weapons obtained through end game means but with essentially only one main perk making them arguably the weakest weapons in the game right now.
Thanks for listening and sign / bump if you agree.
Edit: Please be aware this isn't meant to bash anybody or anyone, this is more of a discussion. I personally think they did a fantastic job with the trials of Osiris reward system, but then again I enjoy PvE and PVP so I know many may disagree (this is just my opinion and not the only opinion that is valid). However I'd like to see powerful weapons available from the prison of elders (legendaries) as well, or at least guns worth ascending in the future.
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6 Replies[quote]People also complain about: -Thorn in crucible -Gjallarhorn in crucible -Not having Gjallarhorn -Suros being overpowered -Suros needing a re-buff -Vex being overpowered -Vex needing a re-buff -Fist of Havoc -Scorch Melee -Bladedancer -Golden Gun -Voidwalkers super -Titan's grenades -Helm of Saint-14 & Bubble combo -Warlocks fusion grenades -Any grenade that existed rather -Felwinters lie -Shotguns in general -Crota being broken -No vault space -Rockets in crucible -Lmgs in crucible -Heavy ammo being too constant in crucible -Heavy ammo being too few in crucible -Special ammo being too few in crucible -Special ammo being too plenty in crucible -Bloom in crucible -Camping in crucible -Others being better than them in crucible -Others being worse than them in crucible -AFK-ers (granted that's worth a complaint) -The loot system -Getting a really good weapon meanwhile they wanted a No Land Beyond because it's the only exotic they need. -No Land Beyond being the worst weapon ever. -When killed by No Land Beyond they complain -Going invisible as a hunter in general -Blink jumping as hunter/warlock -Blink shotgunning -Titans jumping higher than hunters -Titans not having enough health because they're the tank class. -Warlocks need protection as they self-res -There not being bumpers on the edges of crucible maps because they walk off too often -Snipers in crucible -The Last Word being overpowered in crucible -Red Death being overpowered in crucible -Stranger's rifle being too overpowered in crucible -Any pulse rifle in crucible being too overpowered -Xur selling something good -Xur selling something bad -Xurning vs Earning -Nechrochasm needing a buff -Auto Rifles needing a nerf -Auto rifles needing a buff -Thorn's exotic bounty being too hard to try and work towards -Master Rahool not giving them everything they ever wanted in life -Eris in general -Kill target public events being too hard -Heavy ammo glitch being used at crota -Heavy ammo glitch not being used at crota -Map rotation -Iron Banner armor being lvl 32 even though they never do it because it requires much more time and effort and skill to get compared to a raid. -Nightfall rewards being terrible -Complain about the modifiers in the Nightfalls making the nightfall what its supposed to be. A challenge. -Error codes (Yes they are annoying but it is something people complain about so it fits in this list) -Confluxes in Vault of Glass being too hard -Hobgoblins in general -Raid Sparrows not being cool enough to be a raid sparrow -The recruitment section only asking for 32's with gjallarhorn (yes that is a stupid requirement but once again people complain) -Omnigul's strike -Omnigul's scream -Cheating a piece of a raid -Not cheating a piece of a raid -There not being a trading system -Fatebringer being too overpowered in general so it should stay at 300 -Fatebringer needing to be upgraded to 365 -Crucible being stupid in general -Titan Bubbles being overpowered -Shoulder Charge in crucible -No raid being in HoW DLC. -Upon HoW dropping someone else has stated that the new exotic armor sets will cause more complaints as to each character will get buffs and make their class more powerful. -Guardian armor looking the same at lvl 32 (HoW will change all of that yayyy!) -Complaints about people complaining. (I'm not complaining Lol just making a list for people's enjoyment.) -People capturing closest point at the start of a control match. (Occurred a lot on the forums during last Iron Banner) -Orbit taking too long -The younger ages (squeakers as it's called)playing Destiny -No trading system -The apparent 19% of those who've played Destiny on the PlayStation completing a raid -Not having a helmet in tower -Having a helmet in tower (even though it's optional) -Being unable to change a characters appearance after creating their character -Bungie fixing Iron Banner Glitch (buying items at start of Iron Banner) -Bounty for killing 2 targets with a fusion rifle burst 20 times -Trying to send an invite to someone with an extremely long/crazy "xXSo0purxC0o1kiDXx"(made up Lol) after posting an LFG -When you post on LFG, " Send message in game to xXSo0purxC0o1liDXx for invite and they reply to your post on the forums instead -Blues from legendary engrams, shards and energies from legendary engram This wasn't my post I'm just spreadin the word, you should too:) Copy and Paste:D[/quote]
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6 RepliesVandal burn on a rocket launcher? The -blam!-?!
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Agreed. I feel we would of gotten actual decent fallen themed PVE weapons if HoW came with a raid.
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Poe is officially useless unless you need that etheric light to level up.
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2 RepliesEdited by wardog8u2: 8/20/2015 10:35:07 PMI finally got a weapon core and there might be 3 weapons I really want until I saw the perks all the work for what? can I at least exchange my weapon core for an armor core?.. something is wrong here.. how can these be the end game legendary weapons why does pvp get some of the best gear in the game and we grind our butts off for less perks.. grrr.
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my buddy has the rocket launcher with shank damage perk... why??? lol. shanks are the least of my worries.
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yep they really are all garbage, even when being used in POE there are way better options
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Signed
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Signed. PvP seems more important to bungie. You could probably have a similar discussion about the gear. I mean Poe gear looks cool I guess but toO gear looks awesome.
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2 RepliesSigned!!! I agree completely! I just got the Wolves' leash scout rifle and wanted to compare it to the vision of confluence! The vision does at least 300 damage more to all enemies compared to the wolves leash! It's perks are terrible even when I have disciplinarian (more damage to all fallen) it has no saving grace or better skills to give it an edge! I'm fine with it doing like 50 less damage but 300?! All of its stats are also WEAKER then vision the only stay that's better is fire rate but that doesn't matter when the vision deals much more damage! Ghellions demise at 365 does 1222k to vandals...I'll stick with that! Guess all the old school weapons are far more powerful then the new stuff so far
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Agreed
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1 ReplyMy friend got Dreg burn on a Rocket Launcher. Worst. Perk. Ever.
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Make them equal to ToO shit, if not I'll just use fatebringer til the end
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5 RepliesMy timurs lash has firefly
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VoG guns STILL is the best guns in the f**g game ghorn is STILL the best RL in the game and all those are a day one guns..ffs P.s. fung and BH is good to.
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Endgame should have the best perk set, not shank burn on a fusion. Bump, Bump, Bumpity Bump!
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2 RepliesYup, I have the Six Dreg Promise which is the PoE hand cannon and there really isn't a reason to use it over my fatebringer. Same rof and impact except no element or firefly and outlaw.
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The scout rifle is a monster. Got an arc one and it was incredible for Skolas last week.
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Very disappointed with the POE guns, I have a sniper with dreg burn and a rocket with shank burn, seriously destiny? The rest of the perks aren't great either and you can't even re roll these things...
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Agreed. Bump.
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Agreed. Theyre so disapointing. They have nothin goin for them and so far i have 3 primarie PoE weapons with no element and the ones ive used didnt impress me at all. Somethin needs to be done about them cuz it seems they were created to suck.
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Agreed, poe weapons so far seem trash. I think bungies trying not to make any more ghorn or black hammers. Makes all these weapons a waste of time though.
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2 RepliesI think they're fine just the way they are. They take zero skill to get. vog weapons which are the best in the game on the other hand.....
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Bump Although the shotty does work well, not raid level though. Then again POE is not a raid.
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