Its honestly one of the reasons i haven't got the House of Wolves just yet. I would love to go through ToO and was on board with Destiny getting a horde mode as an alternate to the raids (although I think there should be rooms with mixed enemy types). I also am itching to get into the Raids as well, since i have never played one. However, I have limited play time and only 2 friends with Ps4's that both hate shooters. And simply refuse to go using LFG boards to do it. No matter what others might suggested having people on your friends list is not the same thing as having friends. And if i'm going to play with randoms, which I am fine with, I'm not putting that kind of effort in to do it. Just my personal opinion, wrong or right.