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Edited by LordSaladz:
5/30/2015 4:47:09 PM
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As can anyone else. I could attempt to explain to you how I believe the Denver Broncos are gonna go to the Super Bowl next year and would get plenty of flak. I could tell you that I call it "toasted cheese" instead of "grilled cheese" because you don't actually grill the cheese. It doesn't matter the direction.
This thread was meant for questions, curiosities, and friendly conversations. I understand that you obviously don't have the same beliefs as me, but if you don't have any other plans to contribute in one of those 3 fashions then why are you even here?
We've already made it known that there is no way for me to 100% prove the existence of my God (or really [i]our[/i] God) and no one can absolutely disprove it. Your meandering statements are just attempts to pester.
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Edited by Stickman Al: 5/30/2015 4:57:46 PMAnd for the record there is no way humanism can be used to justify some of the atrocities carried out in the name of religion. " Humanism is a philosophical and ethical stance that emphasizes the value and agency of human beings, individually and collectively, and generally prefers critical thinking and evidence (rationalism, empiricism) over established doctrine or faith (fideism)." Try turning that into something negative.
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You know how to mute me right?
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The fact is that there simply isn't enough evidence for anything to to be proven 100%. Therefore, as humans, we each individually decide what to put our faith or belief in. And I can do what I do and believe in what I choose in an ethical way too. And if it doesn't seem ethical to some, then I can at least show them respect.
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I hope you're not insinuating I'm being disrespectful simply by voicing a conflicting opinion. Saying we all use faith is disingenuous, as the word faith has different connotations in different situations. I do not employ anything that could be considered akin to religious faith. There is no scope for that in my world view. If I can't come to an answer by reason and science I will just accept that I don't have an answer yet.
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Which is good. And by all means you should always stick to whatever feels comfortable to you. But instead of simply believing in nothing or that there is no answer, I've learned to look towards the Bible for answers. And I'm comfortable with that. I'm comfortable enough with it to accept opposing beliefs as well. The only reason I want people to believe in the same thing is because the love I feel from the things I read, pray about, and witness personally. I want people to feel those same things. I want people to see that they have a perfect inheritance waiting for them for believing and accepting that Jesus died on the cross here on Earth for us to have that inheritance. I also understand that it all sounds like a bunch of bologna to people too. But I always say to people whim aren't religious or are just unsure about everything, why not try going to church with an open mind? I've had friends completely against the idea of it all and I've seen them transform. The have happier and brighter personalities. But, I don't want to force anything bogus or uncomfortable upon anyone of course. Doing this was risky in the first place. Haha but worth it.
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This is akin to trying to force your religious beliefs down other peoples throats
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Is not about what feels comfortable, it's about what I can and can't prove to be correct. I didn't [b]choose[/b] not to believe in your (not [i]our[/i] as you said above) god. We simply have different standards of evidence - you are happy to live your life based on pascale's wager from what you said above. I am not, as I find the chance of your religion being correct so remote that I can simply ignore it. Neither of us spend time worrying whether other religions are correct right? I feel the same about your religion as you probably do about odin.
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And there is no need to mute you. You never got to that point. Your input last response was good.
