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5/30/2015 4:13:35 PM
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Will you please stop with the power speech? I didn't come for a philosophy lecture, but again, you're completely right aren't you; unified voices never did bring about any form of change did they
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1. There are no unified voices here. 2. There is no fundamental injustice that is taking place here that needs to be corrected. 3. You are simply demanding that Bungie do for you, what you are perfectly capable of doing for yourself. In an environment that you are FREE TO LEAVE at anytime, if you don't like your circumstances. Just because you choose to PLAY a victim here, doesn't mean you ARE one, in fact.
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1. You're right, I'm the only person calling for OMM 2. I can't remember what your '2' was but it was probably boring 3. I stopped reading but was it something about me being a victim? I don't think I'm a victim?
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1. No, you just part of a fairly loud and fairly obnoxious minority. Most people who have actually played through this content understands why Bungie has taken the position they have. Even if they don't fully agree with it. 2. It wasn't boring. It just hits your speil below the water line, which is why you refuse to acknowledge it. 3. Then stop ACTING like one. Bungie has made their decision here, and there is NO evidence to suggest they are going to change their minds. Now MAKE YOURS.
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1. Have a look at the polls 2. No I genuinely wasn't listening, don't flatter yourself 3. This is the point where I give up trying to debate the fanboy
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1. Google the phrase "Selection Bias". 2. People who are dogmatic never do. IT only interferes with their sense of being right, no matter what the facts have to say. 3. But clearly no point when you stop resorting to insults, when you no longer can debate the topic more rationally. Got it.
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1. Yes I'm familiar with the term, but don't really see how it applies 2. Now who's being insulting? 3. What are we even debating now, and why are you insulted by being called a fanboy?
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1. Polling in this environment is not representative. The people who come to the forum are self-selected. They are the most passionate Destiny players...and tend to be the most NEGATIVELY passionate. IOW, they come here to register their complaints. The people who read this thread and answer the poll are again, self-selected. They are the people with the strongest FEELINGS on this topic. Which again tends to be those who are angry that there isn't matchmaking, and not those who are satisfied with the status quo. 2. Not insulting anyone....but I was referring to you. 3. No, I simply ignore comments that say more about them person making them, than they say about me. But that doesn't mean that I'm oblvious to their intent. Which is to shutdown any disagreement by trying to shame and discredit the person making the comment, rather than dealing with the merits of the comment. The tactic is called "Appeal to Ridicule".
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1. There's no end to a statistics argument, you could always argue that X sample isn't representative because it was Y, so I'm really not about to sit here and debate that 2. Isn't worth a proper reply 3. All comments say just as much, or more, about the speaker as they do the listener, it's called inference, you're not saying anything new, no matter how much you try to flesh out your answer Should I start adding a little +1 to the bottom?
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1. Sorry Charlie. There are very clear RULES to the proper collection, use, and interpretation of statistical data. Going on polling from self-selected groups who have a stake in the outcome of the question being asked is a clear violation of those rules. 2. It was. Just not the one you wanted. 3. Actually wrong on all counts with that one...but its a free country. You can do whatever you like.
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1. Swings and roundabouts, it violates one or two of your 'rules' but upholds several others, 'Charlie', as do most statistical studies 2. No it wasn't, it was one line long, you're faltering yourself again 3. Now you're just resorting to 'you're wrong' this is getting petty I think we've reached the 'agree to disagree' stage here?
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LOL.... Whatever. Clearly you've run out of rational counter arguments. Later.
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You've got to be a woman? Only a woman could be so persistent of an argument, fine, what actually [i]is[/i] your stance on OMM, you don't want it, or you don't want to hear about it?
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1. I'm a guy. 2. I'm as straight as they come. Anymore insults and irrational comments you'd like to get off your chest while you're at it. Your problem is that the facts don't support your agenda, and you're getting frustrated because I won't just ignore that little problem....or be intimidated and insulted into doing so.
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1. Oh come on your username is Kelly, your pic is of a female warlock, you argue incessantly, I can be forgiven for assuming that you're a girl 2. What's that got to do with anything And I'm not getting frustrated? And what facts are you referring to? And I'm not trying to intimidate anyone?... Actually where did you get the entirety of that last paragraph from?? :L and before you say, no, I'm not in some form of denial or anything like that
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Wow. Rare to see someone wear their prejudices so prominently and so proudly. 1. Kelly is my LAST name. 2. green is a work related inside/visual joke that I made part of my gamertag. 3. My picture is of a WARLOCK...which is my primary character....who just happens to be female 4. I argue "incessantly" because I don't intimidate or shame easily. I have a lifetimes experience in dealing with would be bullies, so I'm fairly resistant to their favorite tactics to shutdown debate or disagreement. Sorry.
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Edited by Lander: 5/30/2015 11:05:56 PM1. Really? Lander is my last name :D 2. I've forgotten what two was 3. I can't remember if there was three or four but if there was four, I can't remember what three was 4? Ah so bullies gave you a rough time at one point so now you feel a bit sensitive on the matter? Edit: 2. C'mon it looks like your name is Kelly Green to an outsider 3. Couple that with the female picture and you can see how it's an easy conclusion to arrive at? But hey, +1 for the warlock
