Looking at these lighthouse guns, I know I will never be able to catch up to someone who has access to them while I do not.
Makes it pointless to even try.
Two equally skilled 9-0 players and those guns will make any firefight so lopsided if one has them and the other doesn't ... (and I am certainly not anywhere close to their equal when we have even weaponry, I have 0 chance it win a gunfight)
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Elemental have no effect in PvP. Besides, like anything you can look at this 2 ways. 1 the try hards will keep playing just to protect their special weapons 2 some will get bored and leave quickly. Try playing on a Monday
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They're not even very good. There isn't a single trials gun that is the best in its class.
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OP is bunk. I only ever see these guns in PvE, maybe once or twice in regular crucible, but never in Trials, no siree.
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incorrect. Thorn, TLW and Red Death are all still viable options against them. So if you actually believe what you posted then you will never be able to catch up not because you have those weapons but because you suck.
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Thorn, red death, last word, vex still best trials guns
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Edited by Relict Fox: 5/28/2015 5:43:01 AMI'm average at pvp and I went 9 and 1 a few times, you'll get it eventually. Try playing early in the day, alot better odds you won't play against good teams lol. Also playing against good players and learning from their tactics will help you get better.
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I don't see Last Word, Thorn or Hawkmoon leaving their throne any time soon.
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You can get the guns without going to the light house. Look at my character. I have two ToO weapons i got from the gold reward package and the auto rifle is a weapon you can simply buy when you get seven wins. In trials elements don't make a difference so the lighthouse isn't that inportant for PvP only players. Its a cool achievement though.
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You don't even have to be good at crucible to get the 9-0. Find 2 that are willing to carry you and practice running away/staying alive. Besides, the guns aren't even special. Their perks are trash, stat rolls aren't worth replacing exotic primaries already out there, and they are barely physically appealing.
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You can get the exact guns without the elemental damage without going 9-0.. Don't see the issue