Alright, I need to get this off my chest. Has anyone else noticed how absolutely stupid the design of many of the weapons in Destiny are? I mean who designed these things? They make no sense! The hand cannons and LMGs especially. The cylinder sits ABOVE the barrel, and the hammer sits ABOVE the cylinder on most of them. That just wouldn't work. There is no universe in which that works. And the belts on most of the LMGs feed into a chamber that is, again, physically placed ABOVE the barrel. It's just ridiculous.
I mean, did nobody at Bungie look at these and think "yeah, that's just absurd..."?
This is a REAL hand cannon. Note how the barrel, cylinder, and hammer are all perfectly aligned. This allows the weapon to function properly.
http://i.imgur.com/vMEk2qQ.png
And this is a common Destiny hand cannon. Note how the barrel sits aligned with the very bottom of the cylinder, and the hammer is aligned with the top. It makes no sense. (we won't even go into the fact that there is no way for the bullets to even leave the cylinder on most of these...)
http://i.imgur.com/XBvpTOn.png
And most Destiny revolvers are like this.
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140624222458/destinypedia/images/d/d1/Regulator_Mk._43.jpg <an even worse offender considering how high the hammer sits, but I digress.
It would be one thing if this were a case of simply "whoever designed these obviously has no clue..." but then there's Hawkmoon. Hawkmoon is how ALL of them should be. Hawkmoon's barrel, cylinder, and hammer are all properly aligned. Hawkmoon is actually a realistic weapon. A skilled gunsmith could probably make a fully functional Hawkmoon that you could hold and fire, and which looks nearly identical to the in-game version.
http://i.imgur.com/Sdjmwmd.png
Now, there ARE real-world revolvers that have barrels mounted in a fashion in which the round in the bottom of the cylinder is fired instead of the top. An example of this is the Mateba auto-revolver. Though you notice on the Mateba, the hammer is also mounted lower, because it HAS to be in order to strike the rounds themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHxo2cHsits
There are others as well which don't have hammers at all, and use a firing pin system instead (sort of like a Glock), which would explain how the weapons in Destiny are able to work, though not int he case of a barrel being misaligned with the cylinder. This is also unlikely because in those instances, the hammer would be superfluous. It has no purpose... which is obviously not the case in Destiny, as all of the hand cannons have hammers.
So the design of the hand cannons is completely borked in almost every instance except Hawkmoon... let's move on to LMGs.
*sigh*
http://i.imgur.com/E1l2LvT.png
So... the belt feeds rounds into the chamber which sits... ABOVE the barrel? Come on, guys!
And once again, there's ONE exotic that doesn't have this extreme design flaw.
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150404021712/destinypedia/images/6/6e/Thunderlord.jpg
Which means you KNOW how it's [i]supposed[/i] to work, but 99% of them are designed in a way in which they are physically incapable of working... why?
Maybe Scout Rifles will be better?
I was surprised to find that the barrel and chamber on most of the scout rifles, auto rifles, and pulse rifles seem to be aligned relatively well. At least, they don't appear as though they'll suffer a critical malfunction the first time you attempt to fire them as the MGs and Hand Cannons do. But then I realized that the chamber, magazine, and the thumb-hole in the frame all seem to line up perfectly... meaning that the only way the rounds are making it to the chamber from the magazine is through your thumb.
http://i.imgur.com/I04X3sc.png
Am I nitpicking? Yup! Does it bother me? Yup! If you're going to design weapons... you need to either do it right, or not at all. There's no reason why a few weapons should be plausible (all gameplay mechanics aside), while the rest are so outlandishly stupid as to be visibly impossible to anyone paying attention. Get it together, Bungie!
inb4 "space magic" means these all make sense...
EDIT: You know what? I was wrong. About all of it. I'm pretty sure it all basically just works like this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGPIQ72-2Vg
EDIT2: June 1st. I must say... this thread has gone on far longer than I expected it to. some may have figured it out from my replies to them or others throughout, but I never really took this topic seriously. The above was mostly meant as satire, while also inviting discussion as to the visual aspect of how the weapons in Destiny work. It has been quite entertaining, for both myself, and I'm sure quite a few others. There have been some great exchanges with others who had a sense of humor, as well as some who attempted to form an intellectual counter-argument and participate in debates. Others were less than intelligent, but I still enjoyed the replies all the same.
To anyone reading this now with the intention of commenting along the lines of "it's just a game", or "calm down", or "you're an idiot", or "it's not real!" or whatever else...
http://i.imgur.com/U7Ghu2s.gifv
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Your argument holds no ground in a world were you can teleport, and revive people from the dead you don't think they can make weapons any way they choose ? I mean they mastered space travel, and launching energy blast out of there hands........ And your questioning the guns LMAO
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Good thing this is just a videogame...lemme guess, you jack off with gun oil?
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Maybe every time you fire the, bullets blink into the real chamber in the MGs? And maybe the hammer blinks down to strike the bullets every time you shoot a Handcannon? After all, this is a world where you can revive people from the dead and shoot magical laser bullets.
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Firstly, it's a video game set in a fictional universe. Secondly, you don't respawn in real life when you die. Thirdly, hand grenades don't magically reappear in your pocket once used. Fourthly, we don't have super powers. Fifthly, you can't carry a rocket launcher, sniper rifle and rifle and still be mobile. Sixthly, you can't sprint indefinitely. Finally (for now), see point one.
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I assume all guns work with space magic in this game.
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I totally agree. In fact, in protest I'm just going to run around punching everything to death and not use any weapons ever. EVER!
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Last time I checked the weapons in Destiny don't fire actual bullets, they fire condensed superheated polymer rounds. The ammo is fed into a reactor witch superheats and propels the round. Weapons in Destiny need to function in any atmosphere, standard ballistics won't work. Read some Grimoire cards and most things will make sense.
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How dare Bungie make these mistakes!! Especially the Icebreaker. It regenerates ammo unrealistically. It takes exactly 3.356 seconds for a sniper to regenerate ammo. How could Bungie get that wrong? Damn unrealistic game.
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You have a sentient machine race that teleports through time as well as space, guardians shooting magic stuff from their hands and other stuff I can't be bothered to remember. Step back and see the wood for the trees :)
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Hey brother, I agree. As a machinist, having done gunsmith work, and a collector this bugged me. But as others mentioned, I keep telling myself it's just a game. Now what I do want is more use out of the gunsmith at the tower. To be able to tweak or customize weapons more would be amazing. Not just rerolled shit
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It's a game though....
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You know, the thorn shoots spikes, and the vex, ice breaker, all fusion rifles,and elemental snipers shoot lasers. Real logic doesn't apply.
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Only thing i can say about this post is. 1. Its a game 2. Its fictional so a gun can look whatever they think of, 3. Go play cod if you want real guns.
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I'm supprised at the hate. I could see why as a gun nut that would anoyying as hell 😆. Did get a good giggle from this
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How about the fact that the chance of an enemy actually carrying the same type of ammo as you is fairly small
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OP doesn't understand how computer games work.
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No offense, but people don't care. It's a fun game whether or not it makes snese
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I can't wait till you realize what kind of bullets the Thorn shoots lol
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It's not supposed to be like real life. IT'S A GAME. Or else you can make the arguement that the .50 Cal shpuld tear of limbs in MW2 and 3.
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Its a game dumbass
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cause they look cool?
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Bet you still play though
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Dude, its just a game.
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Muted! It's a game
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You do realize that you are talking about a game where a giant floating ball gives people the power to throw purple bombs and return from the dead right?
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Space magic bro