Alright, I need to get this off my chest. Has anyone else noticed how absolutely stupid the design of many of the weapons in Destiny are? I mean who designed these things? They make no sense! The hand cannons and LMGs especially. The cylinder sits ABOVE the barrel, and the hammer sits ABOVE the cylinder on most of them. That just wouldn't work. There is no universe in which that works. And the belts on most of the LMGs feed into a chamber that is, again, physically placed ABOVE the barrel. It's just ridiculous.
I mean, did nobody at Bungie look at these and think "yeah, that's just absurd..."?
This is a REAL hand cannon. Note how the barrel, cylinder, and hammer are all perfectly aligned. This allows the weapon to function properly.
http://i.imgur.com/vMEk2qQ.png
And this is a common Destiny hand cannon. Note how the barrel sits aligned with the very bottom of the cylinder, and the hammer is aligned with the top. It makes no sense. (we won't even go into the fact that there is no way for the bullets to even leave the cylinder on most of these...)
http://i.imgur.com/XBvpTOn.png
And most Destiny revolvers are like this.
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140624222458/destinypedia/images/d/d1/Regulator_Mk._43.jpg <an even worse offender considering how high the hammer sits, but I digress.
It would be one thing if this were a case of simply "whoever designed these obviously has no clue..." but then there's Hawkmoon. Hawkmoon is how ALL of them should be. Hawkmoon's barrel, cylinder, and hammer are all properly aligned. Hawkmoon is actually a realistic weapon. A skilled gunsmith could probably make a fully functional Hawkmoon that you could hold and fire, and which looks nearly identical to the in-game version.
http://i.imgur.com/Sdjmwmd.png
Now, there ARE real-world revolvers that have barrels mounted in a fashion in which the round in the bottom of the cylinder is fired instead of the top. An example of this is the Mateba auto-revolver. Though you notice on the Mateba, the hammer is also mounted lower, because it HAS to be in order to strike the rounds themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHxo2cHsits
There are others as well which don't have hammers at all, and use a firing pin system instead (sort of like a Glock), which would explain how the weapons in Destiny are able to work, though not int he case of a barrel being misaligned with the cylinder. This is also unlikely because in those instances, the hammer would be superfluous. It has no purpose... which is obviously not the case in Destiny, as all of the hand cannons have hammers.
So the design of the hand cannons is completely borked in almost every instance except Hawkmoon... let's move on to LMGs.
*sigh*
http://i.imgur.com/E1l2LvT.png
So... the belt feeds rounds into the chamber which sits... ABOVE the barrel? Come on, guys!
And once again, there's ONE exotic that doesn't have this extreme design flaw.
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150404021712/destinypedia/images/6/6e/Thunderlord.jpg
Which means you KNOW how it's [i]supposed[/i] to work, but 99% of them are designed in a way in which they are physically incapable of working... why?
Maybe Scout Rifles will be better?
I was surprised to find that the barrel and chamber on most of the scout rifles, auto rifles, and pulse rifles seem to be aligned relatively well. At least, they don't appear as though they'll suffer a critical malfunction the first time you attempt to fire them as the MGs and Hand Cannons do. But then I realized that the chamber, magazine, and the thumb-hole in the frame all seem to line up perfectly... meaning that the only way the rounds are making it to the chamber from the magazine is through your thumb.
http://i.imgur.com/I04X3sc.png
Am I nitpicking? Yup! Does it bother me? Yup! If you're going to design weapons... you need to either do it right, or not at all. There's no reason why a few weapons should be plausible (all gameplay mechanics aside), while the rest are so outlandishly stupid as to be visibly impossible to anyone paying attention. Get it together, Bungie!
inb4 "space magic" means these all make sense...
EDIT: You know what? I was wrong. About all of it. I'm pretty sure it all basically just works like this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGPIQ72-2Vg
EDIT2: June 1st. I must say... this thread has gone on far longer than I expected it to. some may have figured it out from my replies to them or others throughout, but I never really took this topic seriously. The above was mostly meant as satire, while also inviting discussion as to the visual aspect of how the weapons in Destiny work. It has been quite entertaining, for both myself, and I'm sure quite a few others. There have been some great exchanges with others who had a sense of humor, as well as some who attempted to form an intellectual counter-argument and participate in debates. Others were less than intelligent, but I still enjoyed the replies all the same.
To anyone reading this now with the intention of commenting along the lines of "it's just a game", or "calm down", or "you're an idiot", or "it's not real!" or whatever else...
http://i.imgur.com/U7Ghu2s.gifv
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The Vex Mythoclast fires magical space lasers summoned through time out of Atheon's rusty corpse. Explain that.
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Because giant teleporting robots and aliens are real too.... lol
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The Traveler fixes all of these problems using his magic Solved!
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I know this is probably a pretty common response, but this is pretty much the reason why this isn't really a big deal: It's a game. They may not look like they would work in real life, but they look cool. Now if the design really bothers you, I would love to know what you think about the Thorn holding 9 huge pointy black dagger lookin' things- which are each the length of the gun itself- in a little cylinder :3
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It also bugs me. But I am namely bothered by esthetics of the gun. Timur's Lash is just plain ugly.
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Didn't annoy me till you pointed it out
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Bungie understands its a game. And they also understand nothing in their game is realistic. Rainbow 6 siege will be out soon so you can play that.
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Look up the chiappa rhino dummy
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And Thorn shoots poison daggers....so?
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And you don't know how space magic works.
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Because pulling a flaming gun out of no where that lets you shoot three flaming bullets is ok.
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Edited by beowulf 678: 5/26/2015 6:04:33 PMYes and the hand cannons can get flared magwells. It's a SciFi game. Who cares?
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In the future, (destiny), they have solved this problem by placing tiny telepprters in each bullet, which magically takes them and places them where they need to be. The design of the gun, Is purely asthetic. Haha. But really nice presentation, a bit too much for me. But it's just a game, physics and reality are out the window.
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I kinda read the thing about the hand cannon and was like "that's enough rage" The handcannons are actually based around a type of revolver where the barrel is in the "wrong" place. I can't remember what it's called but I think it starts with an r.
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Yes. Just like my hand cannon with a 6 round revolver holds 13 rounds. It's a game dude. This is the longest and most pointless waste of energy every.
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So much time put into a silly post. You do realize that Destiny is make believe right? And being that it's make believe, it is also an alternate universe where certain things may work differently. They could have a rocket launcher that shoots out live kittens and then the enemies hug them gently and leave you alone, why? Because it's not real.
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Did you ever thing they were energy cartridges rather than actual bullets?
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Many of the reloads dont make sense either, for example when you go to reload most guns, it still cocks the weapon, even if there would technically still be a bullet in the chamber (this only actually annoys me because it takes more time to reload when it shouldnt). But in the end it is a game and so nothing really makes a lot of sense it, so you just have to accept it for its bad science and mechanics, and sometimes logic.
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This is by far the most petty and pointless post in the history of the Internet. You do realise you are playing a game right? It's not attempting to be a factually correct field manual, it's supposed to be fun.
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Did this post just happen?
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I feel the same way when people say Jupiter or Saturn should be a playable location. Suspension of disbelief! It's a thing! It's important!
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2 major flaws in your post: - you don't acknowledge the Chiappa Rhino which has a fully functioning layout matching the way HCs work in destiny. Pretty much disproves your point about the whole higher hammer-lower barrel setup - ammo is digitized in the lore and doesn't form into actual matter until it's leaving the gun, so technically, there doesn't need to be a direct connection between the mag and barrel
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If you care about how a reload looks in a video game with plants on Venus then there might be a problem
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They understand. Look at Halo. They just don't care.
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how about you watching this quick you tube clip on the feed mechanism of a Browning M2 before you start making claims. it's one of the longest running guns in us military history, and its still in service today. you do make good points but its a sci fi game, not modern shooter. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb4GWulXVxg[/url]
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It annoys me to no end! And the helmets! How do titans see?!