Alright, I need to get this off my chest. Has anyone else noticed how absolutely stupid the design of many of the weapons in Destiny are? I mean who designed these things? They make no sense! The hand cannons and LMGs especially. The cylinder sits ABOVE the barrel, and the hammer sits ABOVE the cylinder on most of them. That just wouldn't work. There is no universe in which that works. And the belts on most of the LMGs feed into a chamber that is, again, physically placed ABOVE the barrel. It's just ridiculous.
I mean, did nobody at Bungie look at these and think "yeah, that's just absurd..."?
This is a REAL hand cannon. Note how the barrel, cylinder, and hammer are all perfectly aligned. This allows the weapon to function properly.
http://i.imgur.com/vMEk2qQ.png
And this is a common Destiny hand cannon. Note how the barrel sits aligned with the very bottom of the cylinder, and the hammer is aligned with the top. It makes no sense. (we won't even go into the fact that there is no way for the bullets to even leave the cylinder on most of these...)
http://i.imgur.com/XBvpTOn.png
And most Destiny revolvers are like this.
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140624222458/destinypedia/images/d/d1/Regulator_Mk._43.jpg <an even worse offender considering how high the hammer sits, but I digress.
It would be one thing if this were a case of simply "whoever designed these obviously has no clue..." but then there's Hawkmoon. Hawkmoon is how ALL of them should be. Hawkmoon's barrel, cylinder, and hammer are all properly aligned. Hawkmoon is actually a realistic weapon. A skilled gunsmith could probably make a fully functional Hawkmoon that you could hold and fire, and which looks nearly identical to the in-game version.
http://i.imgur.com/Sdjmwmd.png
Now, there ARE real-world revolvers that have barrels mounted in a fashion in which the round in the bottom of the cylinder is fired instead of the top. An example of this is the Mateba auto-revolver. Though you notice on the Mateba, the hammer is also mounted lower, because it HAS to be in order to strike the rounds themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHxo2cHsits
There are others as well which don't have hammers at all, and use a firing pin system instead (sort of like a Glock), which would explain how the weapons in Destiny are able to work, though not int he case of a barrel being misaligned with the cylinder. This is also unlikely because in those instances, the hammer would be superfluous. It has no purpose... which is obviously not the case in Destiny, as all of the hand cannons have hammers.
So the design of the hand cannons is completely borked in almost every instance except Hawkmoon... let's move on to LMGs.
*sigh*
http://i.imgur.com/E1l2LvT.png
So... the belt feeds rounds into the chamber which sits... ABOVE the barrel? Come on, guys!
And once again, there's ONE exotic that doesn't have this extreme design flaw.
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150404021712/destinypedia/images/6/6e/Thunderlord.jpg
Which means you KNOW how it's [i]supposed[/i] to work, but 99% of them are designed in a way in which they are physically incapable of working... why?
Maybe Scout Rifles will be better?
I was surprised to find that the barrel and chamber on most of the scout rifles, auto rifles, and pulse rifles seem to be aligned relatively well. At least, they don't appear as though they'll suffer a critical malfunction the first time you attempt to fire them as the MGs and Hand Cannons do. But then I realized that the chamber, magazine, and the thumb-hole in the frame all seem to line up perfectly... meaning that the only way the rounds are making it to the chamber from the magazine is through your thumb.
http://i.imgur.com/I04X3sc.png
Am I nitpicking? Yup! Does it bother me? Yup! If you're going to design weapons... you need to either do it right, or not at all. There's no reason why a few weapons should be plausible (all gameplay mechanics aside), while the rest are so outlandishly stupid as to be visibly impossible to anyone paying attention. Get it together, Bungie!
inb4 "space magic" means these all make sense...
EDIT: You know what? I was wrong. About all of it. I'm pretty sure it all basically just works like this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGPIQ72-2Vg
EDIT2: June 1st. I must say... this thread has gone on far longer than I expected it to. some may have figured it out from my replies to them or others throughout, but I never really took this topic seriously. The above was mostly meant as satire, while also inviting discussion as to the visual aspect of how the weapons in Destiny work. It has been quite entertaining, for both myself, and I'm sure quite a few others. There have been some great exchanges with others who had a sense of humor, as well as some who attempted to form an intellectual counter-argument and participate in debates. Others were less than intelligent, but I still enjoyed the replies all the same.
To anyone reading this now with the intention of commenting along the lines of "it's just a game", or "calm down", or "you're an idiot", or "it's not real!" or whatever else...
http://i.imgur.com/U7Ghu2s.gifv
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The super is pretty unrealistic too. Like when I hulk smash shit in real life blue electricity doesn't shoot out lol
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They work because space magic
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Is it normal to that I clicked on the first picture and got an erection?
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You know Santa is real too
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"I made myself look like an idiot, so I'm going to edit my post and claim it was satire." - OP
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Yeah the thrall aren't accurate either. This game sucks. Ghosts can't talk either. There's vegetation on Venus? What???? I'm quitting this highly inaccurate game.
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I like how you're saying that this was a joke post now because so many people criticized you for it. You either legitimately cared or you put way too much effort into a "joke" because what you've got here is a bunch of pointless research for a video game
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There isnt any REAL ammunition. Its all Glimmer.
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Your forgetting the fact that the handcannons dont have chambers for individual rounds, just one big cylinder that you put in. If its like that with hand cannons, dont you think it would be like that with every gun in some way shape or form? Its a game set in the future, meaning anything is possible, one of them guns could even have an on board fusion reactor that makes bull- oh wait, there already is one. Get over it, its the future, modernization of futuristic weaponry will not funcion to how think they should if you actually held them in your hand today.
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They don't work like revolvers if you notice the mags. No exposed bullets. I assume the gun is electronic so when the hammer flies back and the strikes, it tells the gun to fire a round but doesn't hit the round itself
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Wow - you really thought too much about this. I couldn't get past trying to figure out where I keep all of my ammunition and the 18 guns I currently don't have equipped on my character... Space pockets I think...
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We don't care still
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Have you ever used a Mk 19 grenade launcher? It's an automatic 40mm grenade launcher where the rounds sit above the barrel and drop down to shoot out.... Just saying
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It's a -blam!-ing video game
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Edited by firstDead: 6/1/2015 6:05:11 PMI have wondered about this too, then just about a month ago I recall a similar post about the conundrum of Destiny's handcannons and I recall this shared in a post: http://www.tombstonetactical.com/images/chiappa-firearms/50DSWR-1-large.jpg Here is a pic of the inner workings of the revolver in the above link: http://i.imgur.com/DCEeuHZ.jpg Looks like this is the basis of the majority of Destiny's handcannons, even down to the holes above the barrel. My big question is how the hell does the scope on the Icebreaker work?!
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OP is getting rekd below.......hilarious! Keep reading!
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It's a fictional video game. They can do whatever the hell they want.
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Goodness, and to think: for the longest time before I read your thread, I thought this was a [i]non-fiction[/i] game. Thank you for opening my eyes.
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I have an idea...how about you create the models and integrate them into the game for bungie?
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Hmmmm hey bud, it's a video game.
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So... ITS A -blam!-ING VIDEO GAME, ARE YOU GONNA CRITICIZE FUSION RIFLES LIKE THE VEX NEXT
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So explain how bullets can be returned to the magazine, especially with super good advice ect? Answer: You can't, because it's a sci-fi computer game. There are many aspects of the game that make no sense, but that's because people like yourself want to be sad and pick apart all the flaws by comparing what we know now about physics, chemistry ect to what may be plausible in a futuristic space shooter.
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You must really hate the Mythoclast then
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Edited by o0o ANTH0NY o0o: 6/1/2015 4:54:52 PMOP doesn't understand its a game...... It's a good thing they were able to make the supers so realistic. I would have thought that they would have gotten those so far from reality. I went to buy a new 12 gauge this weekend and ended up coming home with nothing as they were sold out of void burn shotty's with final round. I decided to try blinking down the stairs this morning, ended up with a broken leg.
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Eh this has been argued before.
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U missed the memo, its fantasy