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Edited by SSG ACM:
5/7/2015 4:45:51 AM
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This is a talk you should have with your parents.
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I'm not talking about sex.
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Well that's how organisms are made. Humans, anyway.
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Alright, let's start with something small. How about amoebas?
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What are you asking? Small amoebas are made when a bigger amoeba splits. But that's beside the point. There's only one combination of parts for the watch to work. There are theoretically infinite possible genetic combinations for living organisms.
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Edited by SSG ACM: 5/8/2015 1:10:18 AMLong story short: How was the first amoeba formed? The answer is unexplainable so don't bother attempting to explain unless you for sure have evidential proof (as most Atheists pester to exclaim). The point that I inevitably am going to get to is that evolution has no explanation to the origin of life, an it isn't in any inline sources. So we are not even supposed to exist. So everything finite should have been created by something infinite if we exist. Period. I need this thread to stop. No more responding unless you really have to.
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You assume I'm an atheist. That's ignorant.
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Then what are you?
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That's not relevant to this topic.
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Then I can only assume Deist.
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Edited by BenjyX55: 5/8/2015 4:03:13 AMWrong, and no more relevant than it was an hour ago.
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Theist then?
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Still not relevant. Stop avoiding the topic at hand. You say you can disprove all of evolution because of a couple of holes. If that were all it took to disprove something, Christianity would no longer exist. The vast amount of evidence for evolution far outweighs a couple of minor gaps.
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Okay then, but then metaphorically, evolution has a lot of minor holes and some huge holes.
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Name one hole besides the one you pointed out. Once there is an organism that lives, evolution as we currently understand it works perfectly. Where that original organism game from is still unclear, though several natural and supernatural explanations have been proposed.
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One Big Hole: Evolution Has No Explanation for the Origin of Organic, Intelligence, and Irreducible Complexity.
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yep it does, comet bring chemicles together that will "mix" a "soup" together, through that organisms can built
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I addressed the origin of life. Several hypothesis have been proposed. As for intelligence, it's just another example of natural selection at work. The smarter organisms were better at staying alive, and they were also better at acquiring resources, making them more attractive to mates. This made for more offspring with intelligence genes.
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Edited by SSG ACM: 5/9/2015 5:31:48 AM[quote]Several hypothesis have been proposed.[/quote]Can you please send a URL address of your source? Thank you.[quote]As for intelligence, it's just another example of natural selection at work.[/quote]How? Natural Selection favors the physical adept. Did Darwin's finches assume that it would be better to "think" their beaks into a specific shape?[quote]The smarter organisms were better at staying alive, and they were also better at acquiring resources, making them more attractive to mates.[/quote]Smartness does not guarantee survival. Hypothetically, if I were to put a hungry lion and an unarmed human in a Roman Colosseum during the mid-first century, how long would it take for the smartest one to win?[quote]This made for more offspring with intelligence genes.[/quote]Intelligence is not a gene. If I married a lady with a Doctorate's and I myself had a Doctorate's, will our children have at least a Master's?
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You're thinking very small. I'm not going to argue with you further because it's clear you have no grasp of how evolution actually works.
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[quote]...you have no grasp of how evolution actually works.[/quote]This sentence needs correction. You haven't sourced your info and your thinking goes against what most evolutionists view how evolution operates.
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You showed your ignorance when you mentioned "thinking beaks into a shape". Intelligence can start with something as simple as knowing "that's a predator, avoid it" or "that's poisonous, don't eat it". As for that lion example, I've got news for you. Life isn't like a gladiator arena. The Romans threw slaves in with the lions knowing full well they were going to die, because even though the slave might be smarter than the lion, he was trapped in an arena where all that mattered was strength. But did you stop to think how the lion got there? That's right, because humans were smart enough to trap it. Why don't you explain how my thinking differs from that of most "evolutionists"? Because, as far as I can tell, I'm just citing basic principles of nature.
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Edited by SSG ACM: 5/9/2015 7:21:42 PM[quote]You showed your ignorance when you mentioned "thinking beaks into a shape".[/quote]I was explaining how intelligence is not hereditary, and you didn't quote the entire reply. I continued to say (and it is even supported by Darwin) that if one was smart and he married another who was even as smart, their children would not be even a fraction as intelligent as any of them.[quote]Intelligence can start with something as simple as knowing "that's a predator, avoid it"[/quote]So you are implying that after millions of years of existence, humans were the only creatures to develop intelligence.[quote]..."that's poisonous, don't eat it".[/quote]Now this part of your statement is completely illogical. Any animal that thought this would never have known such a fact since something considered poisonous would not have been realized until after they ate the poisonous plant, and doing so would have caused the creature to die from eating the already not-known poison plant; thus, the news would never have been promulgated.[quote]As for that lion example, I've got news for you. Life isn't like a gladiator arena. The Romans threw slaves in with the lions knowing full well they were going to die...[/quote]This statement shows how little this individual knew about the gladiator arena.[spoiler]*fail*[/spoiler][quote]...because even though the slave might be smarter than the lion, he was trapped in an arena where all that mattered was strength. But did you stop to think how the lion got there? That's right, because humans were smart enough to trap it.[/quote]In your hypothetical situation, let's go for something more realistic: Even after millions of years of existence, if the naked human that inconveniently came across the paths of a naked lion, which would have won if they were to proceed at each other aggressively? My example toward that other individual who I was replying to pointed out that the fact of the matter is that no matter how smart a creature is, Natural Selection does not support it; thus, the evolutionary process kills itself, and you repeating the scenario demonstrates the support for my thesis.[quote]Why don't you explain how my thinking differs from that of most "evolutionists"? Because, as far as I can tell, I'm just citing basic principles of nature.[/quote][INFORMATION PENDING]...
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Edited by BenjyX55: 5/22/2015 3:17:43 AMYou're confusing smart and intelligent. Smart are the guys who can multiply ten digit numbers in their heads. Intelligence, at its simplest level, is simply the ability think. An animal doesn't have to be dying to know that something was poison. Maybe it recognizes a bitter taste and spits the thing out. Maybe it sees another animal die after eating the thing and makes the connection. Again with the lion. Remember that bit about knowing when to run away from predators? A naked unarmed man who charges a lion head on is a moron and quite frankly deserves to die. He has failed at natural selection, so his genes won't get passed on. The human doesn't need to kill the lion. He just needs to survive so he can get laid. He can use his intelligence to his advantage by, say, climbing a tree or picking up a heavy rock. Maybe he urinates somewhere to spread his scent around and confuse the lion. Maybe he knows that lions sleep a lot, so he waits for that before running away. Still don't how intelligence can be an advantage? Now, knowledge isn't hereditary, but it can still be passed from parent to child. Children can learn by observing their parents. Thus, the knowledge obtained by the parent during its lifetime is passed on to the next generation. The instinct to observe and imitate a parent is a trait that could affect natural selection.
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Well done.
