The only reason it's always singled out as the most "op" weapon is because it's the easiest gun to tell you got killed by. The last word and red death are just as common but don't get nearly as much hate. I'm sure if they turned your screen green they would. Just my 2 cents.
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The truth is thorn is a crutch weapon. It doesn't take much skill to use to get a kill. Just shoot and pray then run away. With the others you actually have to legit kill someone.
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It is not as OP as you think it is. If you where to go into a match with a team of NLB, and you play the whole game with every death from NLB, then after the game your going to come out saying "NLB is op" because you have noticed how many times you were killed with it. And statistically, many guns can outgun thorn. Such as red death, the last word, hawkmoon, any shotgun, any fusion rifle. Then the obvious heavy weapons.
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Nlb is actually good if you can land all head shots
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PvP players are always complaining its sad. Nerf this nerf that its too op blah blah blah QUIT WHINING YO crotas sword one hits me should we nerf that too?!
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Stop hating on guns in the crucible & git gud!! But seriously stop, like; stop complaining, stop nerfing, just leave things the way they are. Other than glitches & cheeses, leave things the way they are! Please?!
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Yeah, I only like it because it's good at short and long range.
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Edited by Mardithon: 5/6/2015 3:13:40 AMThe reason it's singled out as the most op weapon is because it's the most op weapon. You have to know this. Nobody is saying it's the only weapon anyone ever uses or that there aren't other good primary weapons as well, but Thorn is the most powerful. The damage and accuracy alone makes it one of the best. The DoT makes it the best.
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Is my copy of Destiny the only one that tells you which gun killed you at the top right corner of the screen? I highly doubt that to be the case...
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Hey! I hate on all exotic hand cannons and red death equally lol.
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Thorns OP as shit. I hate it, but I'm going to abuse the shit out of it until it's nerfed. Fight fire with fire.
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I agree. I use the green screen as a sign to get the hell out of dodge. The crying bitches in here, not so much lol.
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I believe the phrase is "Confirmation bias." Here's what I picture happening: Player enters Crucible: "I've heard about this hand cannon that causes your screen to flash green as it poisons you. I hope nobody uses it on me." Player gets killed any number of times by white/green/blue weapons, just shrugs it off: "Well, that's to be expected, I wasn't maneuvering or using cover and I pretty much ran straight at that entire fireteam..." Player encounters opponent with Thorn: "OMGITBURNSIMTRYINGTOSHOOTBACKINSTEADOFTAKINGCOVERWHYGODWHY--" GUARDIAN DOWN. "Yep, Thorn is -blam!-ing OP."
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I agree completely, I saw more pulse rifles (specifically red death and bad juju) than hand cannons this iron banner...just rebuff auto rifles and increase precision damage on scouts and there would be balance
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Honestly thorn isn't all that OP... Unless an entire team is using it...
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Thorn is not that OP In normal crucible some blue weapons are harder to dodge. If the player use it right. [spoiler]Not me, but they are around[/spoiler]
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The "True" reason the "Torn" (I gave it this nick name because it's broken) is because it doesn't matter how many shots you take, the poison is always going to either kill you while you try to run for cover, or the sxpert sights make heads hits SO COMMON that you can two shot everyone as easily as the Last Word. [quote]Just my two cents.[/quote] ~Princess Luna
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This is 100% true
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Yeah. the scrubs blame guns but that isn't the reason for their negative kd. they should jump off to cod or something
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I saw a spreadsheet posted yesterday that had every weapons stats posted. There are blue weapons with a faster TTK in PvP. I'll link it here. I'm sure the crybabies will still try to argue it though. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/tTMPEAOhYplzPIA4B07pBhQ/htmlview?pli=1
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I want Thorn to turn enemy screens Hot Pink with Flowers and Lollipops busting out..... Hopefully people will rage less about Thorn lol
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That's why I'm against all three of those guns. They are all op and in iron banner they were the only weapons you would see (besides shotguns but that is a separate issue).
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It's definitely OP Check out this Video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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I'll throw a bump your way
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Uh the sun is bright
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If you honestly dont think that gun is op then there is something wrong with you. Its the easiest gun to get kills with with little effort, theres no skill involved, the numbers from IB will tell bungie everything they need to know & it WILL get a nerf.
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The torn is made for the crucible .. if you read the grimiore cards , the last weilder of the totem was a crucible master .. Dee J and then knew what they were doing when they made the weapon .. and they will keep it the way as it is .. you have to understand that it's painful to get .. but it sure is worth it .. I love the torn and I will use it until I get Hawkmoon until then Thorn will be used