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Edited by Kreis:
7/28/2015 2:55:26 PM
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Re-Buff Auto Rifles Completely! Poll.
So, understandably Bungie nerfed Auto Rifles as the statistics proved they were the most over-used weapons in almost every activity. Now that they've castrated and killed Auto Rifles completley and buffed Pulse Rifles to top-tier and Hand Cannons to the most over-used genre of weapon, they might as well restore ARs to their former glory to compete with the newly buffed and overused Hand Cannons. If they re-buff ARs, will you not use Thorn anymore?
TLW: 2 Hipfire = Kill.
Thorn: 2 Headshot = Kill.
Red Death: 2 Headshot = Kill.
Scout Rifle: 3 Headshot = Kill. ( G-Demise )
Auto Rifles cannot compete with any of these weapons at close range.
If two players that were both pros shot at eachother with perfect aim from the same distance, all of the weapons I just mentioned would clearly win. Unless you get the first shot, no.
The first 3-10 shots in, you will lose any gunfight with an Auto Rifle against a skilled player.
EDIT: Bungie finally gave in. Not only are Thorn and the Last Word receiving a due nerf, but Auto Rifles are receiving the exact buff we decided on ( Or mostly )
To restore Auto Rifles to their prime damage but to keep the range nerfs in place to limit Auto Rifles to close-mid range encounters like Thorn and Last Word were originally intended to be.
Thank you all for consistently bumping this forum and I'm gladly looking forward to the Auto Rifle buff.
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2 RepliesHonestly, I don't care. Just wish they would stop buffing/ nerfing in general. Leave the weapons how they are.
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1 ReplyEdited by Snart Xanax: 6/19/2015 10:29:25 AMLet's start this out by saying It's ridiculous how shitty ARs are. I like using all types of guns personally... but the fact that my shadow price and SUROS have become completely dominated by my Thorn or (any decent scout) is not fun at all. In my experience in Trials at least 4/6 players use thorn per game (including my self) because it is so dominate over any AR yea it is a good weapon and fun to use but it ruins the point of having different guns for different situations. Now it's either scout or Thorn/TLW in any PVP situation. They broke what they tried to fix.. EDIT: Didn't even mention how pathetic they are in PVE, there is no situation PVE based where you'll be like oh shit I shoulda brought my Hard Light ( or any AR...... Any. ) for this raid/PoE/strike/nightfall/daily/ or even to patrol the cosmodrome for Christ's sake.
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2 RepliesI think they should be buffed but not to before all the nerfs. I just want them useable
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2 RepliesAuto rifles definitely should remain in the shittest tier. Just not by that much. Having [i]slightly[/i] less damage output than the other primaries is a decent tradeoff for ease of use.
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7 RepliesRebuff half that was taken so they don't become op again, but aren't piles of PvP shit. They're still functional PvE, but, all the whiners never care about the PvE side of things.
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Bump.
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2 RepliesI'm like 90% there are no legendary 3hk scout rifles. But auto rifles would be good again if they reversed the damage nerf. We can keep the damage over range nerf and the range/stability nerfs. Because the last 2 limit it to medium/close range effectiveness which is where it should be. auto's used to be able to compete at scout range and they shouldn't be able to. All they need is some kind of damage buff to make them capable of competing with other weapons.
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2 RepliesReally don't see why people can't just use a scout rifle, or a hand cannon. Or if they really want to have to put in less effort use a pulse rifle. If you want a game where it is entirely based on full auto weapons go play cod.
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1 ReplyThe AR nerf was a little overboard. I've never been a a huge AR fan, but I would like to use them more often; but why would I when all the other weapons kill quicker? I picked yes... any nerf is a bad idea in my opinion.
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I just got a good vanquished that would be good if auto rifles weren't terrible
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3 RepliesOnly 1 gun needs some tweaking. That is THORN. I believe damage over time should only be activated with precision shots. All the other guns should be buffed
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The issue wasn't auto rifles the issue was the suros and how much damage it did while being so stable
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1 ReplyThere just trash now I don't even like using them in PVP or pve
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1 ReplyBring the damage back, keep the range drop-off the same.
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1 Replyobjectively, you can't look at auto rifles and say they're OK forget crucible for a moment. Take an auto rifle to a yellow knights head and tell me how long it takes you to kill him, and how much ammo. now do the same with any other weapon. big difference. not OK.
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BBBBump.
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I would love to use my new summoner in pvp but all the sweatys using thorn and last word in regular crucible make it more of a handicap than fun to use.
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I wanna use my summoner, up for anything, pest control matrix, and payback sos. But nooooo can't compete with thorn or the last word
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Hell no you bloody wackos. Do you know how game breaking auto rifles were before the buffs? They had more range then scout rifles, insane ttk and were just piss easy to use. Maybe buff them a bit, but NO where near where they were at the start. I can do well with auto's now. They don't need much; maybe that 2.5% or whatever amount was taken away recently back. But nothing else.
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2 RepliesI seen people doing fine with the Suros in Iron Banner, it could kill in a decent amount of time.
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They should go all the way back. Set them halfway back. They are supposed to be all around weapons. They were too good at doing everything.
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5 RepliesYou're mad just because auto rifles, the easiest class to use, isn't the best weapon class? And you guys wonder why it seems like Bungie doesn't listen lol there will always be a top and a bottom. Just fix the broken OP exotics and that'll be it.
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Edited by Dead General X: 5/27/2015 7:53:06 PMNormally I hate all these stupid nerfing (especially) and buffing topics, but autorifles got nerfed too much that I kinda cringe when I see my Suros or if I get autorifles, I can't even stand using them anymore. It's sad, they used to be really fun to use, now it feels like a good fun chunk of the game was ripped away
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I have a suros, and I think it is still a half decent gun. The problem is that all the ARs cant compete with the other guns. ARs need to be buffed as to balance with the other guns. My suros should be able to stand up to a thorn instead of just throwing nerf rounds at it.
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