How about mods with +resistance to hand cannon/autos/etc on armor?

[quote] Thorn wouldn't be so op if I wasn't as fast as the last word and hit as hard as hawkmoon lol and it has damage over time [/quote] This ^

Nice ideas...but you'd still have complaining. Because different level and gear-based perks. Some FPS gamers simply have egos that are too fragile to admit that sometimes the other guy is just BETTER....so they will always complain that the game is "not fair" whenever they lose.

Thorn doesn't need a nerf, it's not that bad as it's made it to be. All weapons were not created equally. That's part of the allure of the game. Each weapon archetype has its own pros and cons. Within each archetype there is a variance to the weapons. This gives a wide possible range of uses. Additionally, some weapons are actually earned in this game. These weapons should be better than the rest, as it is an incentive to earn them. Now, each weapon also has its own counter. Thorn for example is only as skillful as the hands that wield it. It is easily countered with pulse rifles and scouts rifles, meaning mid to long range. In close quarters your fusion and shotguns dominate it, as well as auto rifles. Auto rifles do not need a buff, they are actually quite powerful if you play to their strengths. This means you should be using an auto rifle in more of close quarters areas. Most pulse rifles take 5 shots to the body, and takes longer to kill when doing. If you stopped trying to use an auto rifle like a scout rifle, meaning across the map, you'd be perfectly contempt with its abilities in short ranges. Fusion rifles, I don't have much of an opinion on as I hardly ever have used one, it's not my style. Overall, the weapons are closer to balanced than they have been since launch. If you play to how each archetype was designed, and counter accordingly, there shouldn't be much of an issue. Edit - I forgot to mention, that new game type. That is interesting, but I don't think that viable option to eliminate exotics from being used. Removing supers seems more feasible, instead of trying to block a large portion of content in the game.

Thorn wouldn't be so op if I wasn't as fast as the last word and hit as hard as hawkmoon lol and it has damage over time so there's that... Lol buff auto rifles and you'll see more people using them over thorn.

http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win For the scrubs asking for nerfs.

How to Fix Thorn: 1: Find whiners 2: Kill whiners 3: Bath in Whiner tears & blood 4: ??? 5: Profit

[quote]First I want to start by saying [b]absolutely no weapon should be nerfed.[/b] [/quote] When you say this do you mean that under no circumstances should a weapon ever be nerfed? Or do you simply mean at this current time no weapons need to be nerfed. If it's the former then I wholeheartedly disagree. OG Mythoclast for example... [quote] My second solution, the one that's going to cater towards the crybabies, is to introduce a new crucible playlist. Think of barebones in Cod. In this game mode ALL exotics are disabled (including gear as well). [/quote] This would be a good idea. I've been hoping for a mode like this since release. Sadly it would probably be a nightmare for Bungie to implement given the way their system is set up.

Nerfing thorn seems to be a big thing on the forums now. I saw a poll earlier that asked if people wanted a thorn nerf, and the overwhelming majority i think said no? Just sharing that bit of info

I think an autorifle buff would go a long way toward remedying the situation. I can understand the frustration of people who don't have thorn, tlw, or hawkmoon. They are very powerful weapons that are difficult to match in a straight shootout. An AR buff would give these people something to counter with. I'm afraid the people who own these guns and call them crutches for noobs (while using them themselves) will never be satisfied though.

[quote] First I want to start by saying absolutely no weapon should be nerfed[/quote] Dumbest shit I've heard.