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Edited by Zevenwulf: 4/28/2015 7:31:55 PM
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So... just finished a nine hour raid and...

I'm probably just beating a bloody pulp of what used to be a dead horse, but I just need to tell someone about the nine hour VoG hade raid I finished tonight. We (myself and two other guys) started the raid at 2:30pm EST we opened the vault after a fourth person joined and proceeded inside to the confluxes where we tried to get more of our friends into the game, life happened and saw two of them leaving, but another person joined and the three of us basically sat for seven hours at the confluxes trying to get complete it, we didn't. Seven hours, four third player swap-outs and a minor bout of worry later and a full fire-team beat the Templar. We progressed onward with no more difficulty, one member of our team had to depart and so we faced the Gatekeepers with five. Still no problems, even had a sixth man join just in time to collect the rewards for the checkpoint. Finished Atheon with but a single wipe and one death at 11:30. And so a nine hour raid, the longest one I have ever played, came to an end... I just wish this game that I enjoy playing knew how to reward the time I had invested into it. The final tally of rewards for myself? Found Verdict number four (Templar) [I used this shotgun during the battle with it] Timebreaker number six (Atheon) [it was equipped on my character during the entire raid] Ascendant Shards (x25) (Everything else) [a material most players have large stockpiles of] Nine hours of play, and the people that joined in the last two? Two of them got Mythoclast (both previously acquired multiple copies). I don't understand it... I simply do not understand how nine hours of playing nets me nothing but a story of shoulder charging my friend into a bottomless pit as people came and went. Bungie, as someone who enjoyed this raid up until the very last second, someone who ran headlong into a pointless battle just for the fun of it, someone who was smiling as Atheon crumbled into ash, I need to tell you that your "reward" system is severely broken. There are people who have done much more than me and walked away with much less, it's a sobering thought that the time they put into the game wasn't even considered in the end. This system of truly randomized rewards needs to be rethought and redone, perhaps even removed. Nobody should go through a game, having fun for most of it, and then just turn off their console and sit in silence because, in the end, their investment wasn't valued. Some people will come here to call me an entitled brat because I put this up where they could see it, honestly, I would have preferred to e-mailed this little bit of feedback to you, but I couldn't locate where I would send it. Maybe I am acting like an entitled child, maybe I don't deserve to feel that this game rewards my time, but a night like this should never be allowed to happen. I honestly hope you find a way to fix this game. EDIT: instead of addressing the main point most of you have come in here to insult me, way to make a guy feel welcome for being honest. I have never been so disappointed to be part of a "community" as I am now. It's disgusting.

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  • If it took you 9 hours to complete you don't deserve anything good

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  • And It took you nine hours to make this thread as well ;) And hey, Props on pushing through!

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  • It said this account has not played destiny

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    • Rng isn't going to reward better based on time spent. Did you not know this before starting the raid?

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    • So you wanna be rewarded for sucking arse?

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    • Well said. Bump!!

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    • suggestions: 1) don't waste your time on a lost cause - use LFG! to grab more people or join another group yourself if things are taking a turn for the worst (9 hrs is waaaaaay too long) 2) bad rewards will certainly sting more the more time you invest (i.e. "don't waste your time") - you are gonna get duplicates and come up empty so why invest a ton of time, use LFG! 3) use LFG! - i don't know why people don't use this, it works great

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      • One of a million reasons why this game sucks and is still in beta

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      • Ya bit think about it, if they made it to where you got higher rewards for more time then people would just sit Afk in the vault and set their controller up so they don't get booted and then come back a few hours later

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      • This is everyone's story who plays destiny.

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      • That's not investment, that's a waste of life, get outside dude.

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      • Nine hours?!? Lol gay

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      • I feel your pain. Now, you're going to get hate comments, nothing you can do about that. Everyone who has played this game has felt like you and if they say they haven't then they are simply lying. I don't like RNG personally, I like micro transactions, but the RNG for this game is in fact "broken" like everybody says. It should never happen the way it did with you and your 9 hour raid. The odds need to be re worked and tweaked. They said that the new loot system with HOW is going to yield more gear drops, less of the same one dropping for you multiple times. Let's keep our fingers crossed

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      • You expect it to give you great rewards when you took NINE HOURS to complete it? That's like coming last in a race and getting mad because you didn't get a medal. Ok, enough of the rant. The reason the people that joined in got mythoclast is because they weren't in the activity as long. Rewards are pretty much based off time. Which makes sense. The better you are, the faster you'll complete an activity, the better the reward you get. People figured out a while back though that this can be worked around as all you have to do is come in late, do a little damage, and tada a new exotic.

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        • You stood firm and completed it so Imo bravo. Some groups can do it easily for some it takes a while longer. Yes the reward system sucks BUT Imo you got a grand reward and it's called a COMPLETION. All the best. Ever want to raid look me up and I'll help. Psn fudgeurpizzy

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        • A few things 1.rng is bad and i feel your pain on that 2.people joining last second and gettin amazing drops is shitty 3.im not sure why you sat there for 9 hours I would have stopped but maybe thats just me 4.the community an be pretty toxic, but it can also be very friendly, i suggest going to a different tab for less toxicity

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        • Yall suck then i four manned it with a 29 on the team your pulling a time that i thought was extinct

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        • I just finished a 3 man hard run in about a hour. Triple mythoclast drop

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        • I know what you mean, I am constantly saying to people, if you want the vex don't do it with me. About 50% of the time I get the thing when someone else has done the raid twice as many times as me and still hasn't gotten one. Thought it was the other way round with suros. I wanted it more than anything and people just kept getting it around me. :( didn't have the coins the first time xur sold it and got it the day after the latest auto rifle debuff. Was sorely disappointed.

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        • Clan mates and i have 3 manned the whole raid before... So if it took 9 hours with people coming and going, you were doing something wrong... Anyway, you already got your reward. You said it yourself. You enjoyed the whole raid, so can you really ask for anything more? Everyone is so hooked on the idea of pixels on your screen being rewarding, they forget how much fun they were having the whole time.

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          • 9 hours? How bad r u guys

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          • Feel your pain, I dont know if your a day 1 player but I know all too well the brutality of vog, grinding to 30 was miserable. Im still missing the foil.

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          • If you could get better rewards based on time spent, people would just stand around until the loot became 'better'. The fact that you took 9 hours is either extreme dedication or shear insanity.

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          • Why not just leave and do something else until you found more members?

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            • Sadly, this happens all the time. I have buddies who join in at the end of raids and get the only exotic drop. It's kind of a joke in our team now that when someone comes in late and especially if they do nothing, they will get the greatest reward. We all laugh about it now. Happens in the crucible as well. Playing with a team the last few nights and one guy was always on the bottom of the team and every time except once, he was rewarded. That is out of several hours of gameplay. It wasn't anything great that he got but it was just the fact that he kept getting something every time. You just have to laugh about it or you'll drive yourself crazy.

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              • Ignore the trolls most of them spend more time here than they do in game I think. Now to the main point I agree with you completely if they wanted to do a lottery system it at least should have been a currency system where by completing the raid your rewarded with ( I'll make up a currency let's call it glass coins) a certain amount of glass coins at each check point with a bonus amount for going all the way through the raid which would also encourage players to do the entire raid all the way through and discourage quoting. Now let's say you have your coins after now you can go buy chests with varying lvls of chance from the vendors for chances at vault gear with one chest having a guaranteed weapon or armor depending on which chest you chose and 1 really expensive chest say 2 or 3 or whatever raids worth of coins witha 50/50 chance of having a raid exotic weapon. This way people are guaranteed something and have greater chance of getting what they want as well as they don't have to watch some random join last minute and get the item they've waited months for and still don't have. Yeah my ideas not perfect and I'm sure some trolling comments might ensue but if they do just ignore them there's no sense in acknowledging them. Treat them as though they don't exist. Anyways here's hoping you get the vex soon.

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