[quote]main reasons why people don't want gjallarhorn sold and arguments against them 1. Everyone will have it!!! I know you want to think these forums represent the majority of the Destiny community, but they simply don't. Millions of people don't use these forums. Millions of people don't check Xur, millions of people don't play on the weekends. Millions of people don't have the strange coins. Even after Ice Breaker was sold 3 times, people still don't have it. You still see threads about people having missed it or not having enough coins for it. Guaranteed if Xur sells Ghorn, the next week people will still be asking for it. So to think that every single Guardian will be rocking Gjallarhorns if it goes on sale is not good logic. 2. It'll break the game!!!! Nope. I play on many strikes where all 3 of us have a Gjallarhorn and guess what? The game doesn't break. Sure, bosses are downed about 30% quicker, all it does it make an already easy task slightly easier. - not exactly game breaking since even ROC strikes aren't particularly challenging. Also, this requires all 3 people to have a Gjallarhorn (see point 1) and have full Gjallarhorn ammo (doesn't always happen) or possess synths (doesn't always happen) and be willing to use them (doesn't always happen). Also, there will always be people who want to equip other exotics. 3. If everyone has one, Bungie will nerf it! What are they waiting for? Whenever polls are conducted on these forums, about 65% of people own Gjalarhorn. Certainly, a majority of my friends have it. Many of the strikes I'm in (with mates) contain 3 Gjallarhorns. Videos of people destroying Atheon in 15 seconds with 6 Gjallarhorns have been around for months (I think even Bungie posted one). And there's many videos of people solo-ing Crota with a Gjallarhorn (here's mine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4n_KULs5fg&sns=em ). What are Bungie waiting for? They know how exactly powerful it is, many people already use it to make the game easier, they've had many opportunities to nerf it ... but they haven't. I hardly see why they'd suddenly get the nerf-hammer if Xur sold it and the percentage of Gjallarhorn owners jumps up by 15-20% 4. I don't want Xur to sell it because it will feel so much better when I finally see it drop! Then don't buy it, simple. 5. I won't be a special snowflake Shut up 6. People should earn their Gjallarhorn The word earn means: to gain deservedly in return for one's behaviour or achievements. Receiving something by RNG is the antithesis of earning because contribution to any activity is not taken into account (or even needed), nor is your skill level a factor of what you receive. Basically you can suck terribly or not even be at your controller get a Gjallarhorn. Being granted something at random is not earning, it is the complete opposite. Technically it takes two weekly heroic strikes to have enough coins to get an exotic of Xur where as getting a weapon at random requires you to be present at only one activity. 7. But ... I like being special You are already special, in your heart, for many reasons, and a digital gun isn't one of them. Edit. Reason 8. If Xur sells it I/many players would stop playing. This is frightening because if you are saying that you're being led along solely by a carrot on a stick, that makes you an ass. If Gjallarhorn is an artificial way to pad your Destiny experience, that's sad. If you think that starving the player base is a good method of player retention, please don't become a game developer. The simple truth is that if something is fun, you'll do it. I played many years of Halo (and other games) because they were enjoyable activities, without the chance of that random loot. Also, saying you'll quit if you finally get that weapon you want is puzzling logic. If you finally get that weapon you want, wouldn't you want to ... enjoy using it? And play more? And if you collect every exotic, there's plenty of other goals to chase, I don't even have to name them. Edit: Reason 9. Xur will NEVER sell Gjallarhorn again, it's confirmed to be off his loot table. I gather you get this I information from that MEGAMAN chap. The same chap who has also written: [i]-Xur's list of items of sale can be changed in real time, not just via patches. -Bungie manually controls when he appears, where he appears, etc. Therefore, they can do things like prevent the originally scheduled Xur from appearing and replace him with an different Xur prepared in case of emergency. -I have already seen Xur appear with a different list of items than what originally appeared in my data. When I checked that Xur's list of items, they were all identical to what ended up going on sale that week. The next week, he reverted to his original scheduled list. Therefore, I've concluded that Bungie prepared a different Xur for that one particular week. [/i] So no, it's impossible to say Xur will never sell Gjallarhorn with absolutely assuredness. Ps. I own 3 maxed Gjallarhorns and I would love Xur to sell it. Post post script: in regards to bosses being downed quicker ... how is that a bad thing? Does anyone out there really think "gee that strike-boss died too quickly, I would have loved to have shot at it for another 7 minutes. Bullet sponges are where the fun is at."?[/quote]