I hear you, I do. But I take issue with the fact that it's happening at all. That's the headspace the snide comment I posted came from. The reason most people purchased the expansion pass was for the raids, there was an understanding that each expansion would contain a raid activity. And even if that understanding was a mistake, bungie had every opportunity (I believe an obligation) to correct that mistake because they knew the community was making it. Hell In the update Urk basically admits that the raids are the most important part of their game as he says there won't be one with HoW. That is downright conniving. And this new thing to do, the arena. It's three player PvE content, according to the post. To me that sounds an awful lot like a strike playlist. Maybe more like a final room of the nightfall playlist if they add modifiers, I don't know enough about it yet but these new things to do really don't sound very new. And with the arena, is there gonna be new gear or is that where you get the new currency to upgrade old gear because if it's the latter then the only way to reach max level after HoW drops is going to be through PvP content (IB and trials of Osiris). Extrapolate that to - grind gear to play IB/Trials to get top tier gear, then max that gear to play the arena to get the currency to upgrade old gear, then upgrade old gear to new max level to have the exact same gear you are wearing now (because you like that 160 intellect chest piece) in a few months with a higher number next to the symbol that means level in the game. That doesn't seem right to me.

Respect. I feel they will simplify it. Witg all the complaints they get about lack of pve content, the arena will be a horde model of sorts. Trials will be ultimate pvp . All this will have respective and distinctive gear associated with their choice of light levels. They are tired of the discrimination between raid 32 and ib 32.

God I hope so, I'm just not sure how they could regulate gear drops in something like horde mode, you know? And would the weekly completion be tied to how many waves you've completed or how many modifiers you have active. I guess only time will tell, but I think limiting it so that you can only drop a specific number of items/materials a week the replayability they are going for may not work out so well. I don't know haha im just demoralized because the lack of a raid so I'm being a childish pessimist.

Lol it's all good. The horde mode is like a recurring daily, but with radiant and other rewards. Rng still in otherwords Edit*u can still get ghorn

Haha have 3 of those, I was looking forward to new raid gear and weapons. Hopefully there will be raid level weapons and armor in the arena.

Shit homes wish I could "haha" about having 3 seeing as I have none. But I will say I'm only missing that tlord, an nechrochasm out of ALL current xos

I just need a crux for the necro and I'll have all of them too, never wants to drop for me though. You'll get the ghorn sooner or later though, gotta keep hope alive, right?