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4/8/2015 11:37:20 PM
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[quote] appeared out of nothing.[/quote]
No scientific theory claims this.
Please read up on things instead of spouting poorly misrepented talking points.
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I see no point in continuing this... No point in repeating the same things over and over... You think god exists outside of time. That doesn't make sense because [b]existence is temporal[/b]. Not only is there no justification, but we can never get any justification, because we can't go outside of space and time.
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Edited by SSG ACM: 4/10/2015 12:41:10 AMI don't think He exists outside of time because I know He exists outside of time. I GOT THE LAST WORD (not the gun, the debate).
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XD It's semantics. You have a warped definition of existence, time and knowledge. And I'm perfectly ok with that.
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Then what is the definition of existence?
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Glad that we agree that you can agree. Let me know when you get the Stiffen Neck concept. Reply if you Christians understand the concept.
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God can 'cause He's God, the creator of space and time, and sure, we can end this if you wish. Good day to you...
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His name is God, creator of everything, including the intangible (e.g., time); thus, saying God has a beginning is saying that God is bound by time. Wrong. Why? He created time. Duh...
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yes and multiple books also say Spider man and Mary Jane hook up. also says white owls give people letters to hogwarts. what is your point?
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[quote]But what created the something else? God operates outside the laws of physics but the laws of physics are constricting on themselves. People like to declare faith in God creating the universe as ridiculous but then put full faith in ideas that have no scientific support. I'm not saying science is wrong to search for answers or to explain things, but it seems hypocritical for people to make big jumps in assumptions with the universe and denounce God in the same breath[/quote] I have no faith in the Big Bang [i]or[/i] god. None of us know how the universe started [i]and we never will.[/i] That is a fact that I have come to terms with. But you claim hypocrisy of making assumptions of physics defying itself, but isn't that was god does? Seriously, your argument is really just a circle that doesn't end. You can't just claim god exists because you believe he defies physics. It doesn't work that way.
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Edited by TaterWedge13: 4/9/2015 6:31:36 PM[quote]Seriously, your argument is really just a circle that doesn't end.[/quote] You could say a paradox.
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Again, I don't think you know very much about scientific principles. You seem to completely rely on misrepresentation. We have no evidence that there had to be a complete, universal non-existence before the existence of anything. This jives with your over-simplification of Thermodynamics (the universe wasn't created from nothing, but existed in another state). Not having all the details about the singularity that precipitated the Big Bang does not invalidate anything as of yet. You keep trying to contrast/compare trust in scientific application to your unfounded religious belief. This is disingenuous at best. The things that you claim are "just like faith" under science are not. They are demonstrable, verified through observation and/or experimentation.
