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Edited by denjoga:
4/9/2015 7:47:21 PM
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Were you able to do this week's N.F. w/out cheesing?
I have a hard time believing that it's possible for anyone to complete this Nightfall without hiding under the stairs or using some other cheese that I'm not aware of.
If you did it, post here and explain how.
I probably won't believe you anyway, but if you really did it, I'm impressed!
edit: The actual question is, did you do it without any kind of cheese whatsoever.
So, if you hid under the stairs or on top of the lights or did anything else other than face him straight up, your answer should be "NO".
next edit: I changed the title so people might stop misunderstanding the point of the question.
I think the answer is about 50/50, cheese/no-cheese.
The answer to no-cheese seems to be Titan bubble, weapons of light and gyllenhoorns, lots and lots of gajyllenhoorns.
I've done it that way on normal, but this time there were a ton more (and tougher) enemies in the room before Valus spawned.
The shields on the psions were ridiculous.
Hiding under the stairs made it a problem to use the gyllenhoorn but hunter invisibility helped a bit.
I'll try it again next time w/ a Titan.
Good thread. Thanks!
final edit: I guess different people have different definitions of "cheese".
IMO, hiding in a spot where you are enclosed on all sides and the enemy can't get to you at all (as long as you stand in the right spot), but you can still hit them, is "cheesy", meaning "cheap".
NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
Hey, I think using a fire team full of gajigglyhorns is kinda cheesy too, but whatever works.
I'm not judging anyone for playing cheesy - I do it all the time.
I guess what I mean by cheese is a strategy (legit or not) that takes most/all of the intended challenge and risk out of a task.
Sometimes, especially when it's a strike I've done a million times, I don't care about the challenge, I just want to get it done, so I do it the cheesiest way possible.
Other times the challenge and difficulty are what makes it fun.
In my opinion, it's your game and you can play it however you'd like - as long as it doesn't get you banned or piss off the people you're playing with (too much).
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I mean, I popped into the hidey spot every once in awhile to pop a synth or change my guns, but I mostly just stood up top left.
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Cheese? Rockets McDickface has cheese?
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Three fully galley and weapons of light that's how
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You can cheese night falls?
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So finding cover is cheeseing?
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All i did was get a titan to pop a weapons of light bubble across from valus. 7 rockets each and maybe a couple of sniper shots and he was down
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I do it regularly with out hiding under stairs or in the lamp. It's not a hard strike. Just long. Might have needed a revive but it's not the end of the world.
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How is that a cheese? The level design was made for doing that "c hesse" stuff
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I hid in the lamp
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[quote]I have a hard time believing that it's possible for anyone to complete this Nightfall without hiding under the stairs or using some other cheese that I'm not aware of. If you did it, post here and explain how. I probably won't believe you anyway, but if you really did it, I'm impressed! edit: The actual question is, did you do it without any kind of cheese whatsoever. So, if you hid under the stairs or on top of the lights or did anything else other than face him straight up, your answer should be "NO". next edit: I changed the title so people might stop misunderstanding the point of the question. I think the answer is about 50/50, cheese/no-cheese. The answer to no-cheese seems to be Titan bubble, weapons of light and gyllenhoorns, lots and lots of gajyllenhoorns. I've done it that way on normal, but this time there were a ton more (and tougher) enemies in the room before Valus spawned. The shields on the psions were ridiculous. Hiding under the stairs made it a problem to use the gyllenhoorn but hunter invisibility helped a bit. I'll try it again next time w/ a Titan. Good thread. Thanks![/quote] 21 galley shots should be enough to kill him so as long as you got 3 of them your alright.
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titan bubble right upper gallery. HoC GH IB BH and good primary /grenades for Odds
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Invisibility didn't seem very helpful for me. The phalanx's immediately would turn to face and start shooting when I jumped out with crouch invisibility active.
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3 RepliesUnder the stairs isn't a cheese.
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Man i went down the stairs and stayed there the three times and im proud of it..... Lame strike, lame boss, lame no burns so lame boss kill... Also got a lot of crap ot my rewards so i m even prouder to fight like a wussy
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6 RepliesLots of rockets, and running around, I felt te health reduction happened already because he went down really fast, but just lots of rockets with weapons of light
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4 Replies3 guardians with ghorn and weapons of light. We made sure we all had full heavy ammo and were able to use a synth right aways aswell. Took about 9 rockets each.
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Yeah weapons of light doesn't affect rocket launchers so that wouldn't help.
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2 RepliesEdited by Carolina OvR: 4/9/2015 11:45:59 AMTitan drops BoL bubble on opposite platform of valuus. All three of us had 7 Gjallahorn rockets. Then we all synthed. The we shot our other 7 rockets until he died. The ads didn't even spawn. Also under the bridge isn't cheesing... People have no idea what cheesing is anymore
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Did it three times, we all just stood up top the side with the pscions(spelling?) With our WoC's and killed the annoying purple guys asap. We also stayed close to eachother(not too close, watch for splash damage) so that when one went down we quickly revived....difficult strategy if you aren't experienced. But waaaayyyy faster then sitting in the boxes
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It's amazing what three gallys can do no cheese needed
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I wasn't aware that tactical cover is considered "cheese". You're in no way glitched out of the map and you still have to kill adds to have a clear shot. Your point and poll are invalid.
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3 RepliesLOL, cheese? Someone is shooting at you in the desert so you hide behind a rock, how is that cheese?
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By now it's not cheesing, it's the one of the only three strikes that hasn't been changed since the beginning (the phogoth shrieker room, the spider tank being sniped from millions of miles away on the Sepkis strike and then The Mars strike) this is all proof that some areas have been known about since the beginning by Bungie and they don't care/they were intended to be there. If they wanted to fix it they could have by now. Plus it's become the type of thing everyone knows about and has become the type of thing that if you don't know about it people are shocked/possibly judge you
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Sitting under the stairs isn't a cheese. It is meant to be there.
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Really? So many people cheesing!
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Lol killed valus in under 30 seconds
