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Were you able to do this week's N.F. w/out cheesing?

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I have a hard time believing that it's possible for anyone to complete this Nightfall without hiding under the stairs or using some other cheese that I'm not aware of. If you did it, post here and explain how. I probably won't believe you anyway, but if you really did it, I'm impressed! edit: The actual question is, did you do it without any kind of cheese whatsoever. So, if you hid under the stairs or on top of the lights or did anything else other than face him straight up, your answer should be "NO". next edit: I changed the title so people might stop misunderstanding the point of the question. I think the answer is about 50/50, cheese/no-cheese. The answer to no-cheese seems to be Titan bubble, weapons of light and gyllenhoorns, lots and lots of gajyllenhoorns. I've done it that way on normal, but this time there were a ton more (and tougher) enemies in the room before Valus spawned. The shields on the psions were ridiculous. Hiding under the stairs made it a problem to use the gyllenhoorn but hunter invisibility helped a bit. I'll try it again next time w/ a Titan. Good thread. Thanks! final edit: I guess different people have different definitions of "cheese". IMO, hiding in a spot where you are enclosed on all sides and the enemy can't get to you at all (as long as you stand in the right spot), but you can still hit them, is "cheesy", meaning "cheap". NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT. Hey, I think using a fire team full of gajigglyhorns is kinda cheesy too, but whatever works. I'm not judging anyone for playing cheesy - I do it all the time. I guess what I mean by cheese is a strategy (legit or not) that takes most/all of the intended challenge and risk out of a task. Sometimes, especially when it's a strike I've done a million times, I don't care about the challenge, I just want to get it done, so I do it the cheesiest way possible. Other times the challenge and difficulty are what makes it fun. In my opinion, it's your game and you can play it however you'd like - as long as it doesn't get you banned or piss off the people you're playing with (too much).

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  • Ahh, Valus. I always cheesed him until Bungie cut his nutz off. Then I just killed him in 30secs.

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  • Ahahaha this is a good necrobump, people are so confused, it was Rockets Mcdickface that week, it's in his tags

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    • Edited by PapaSubpar: 10/29/2015 10:21:38 AM
      Sigh, necromancer

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    • Necro op

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    • I solo'd it. So cheesed it I did.

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    • Didnt even go in the room. Banged him out from the roof with the LDR armor piercing rounds. Solo on all 3 chars.

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      • Edited by metallicaNLC: 10/29/2015 9:38:25 AM
        since when is there a cheese for darkblade? edit: apparently this post was for whatever the nightfall was on april 9th-ish...

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        • What? Can you cheese? Oh... Necro...

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        • Edited by XiX_GhOsTx_XiX: 10/29/2015 9:31:01 AM
          Nevermind.

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        • This was the easiest nightfall I've ever seen.

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          • There's a cheese?

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          • Yes

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          • Did it 3 times , didnt "cheese " on my warlock lol

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            • Two titans with helm 14. We both had the perk to Gen orbs when the bubble is shot. We had no more than 15 seconds between each bubble so it was super easy

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            • I used cover, heavy ammo to clear out minions, and primary and ice breaker to work on Valus. With 2 random hunters

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            • Hiding behind those crates isn't a cheese -.-

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              • Yes, twice actually. IceBreaker, no worries. Reliable teammates, no worries. Strong teamwork and communication, no worries. Was it a pain in the ass? Of course XD

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              • Also, I started reading the comments after I posted... So many people say "it's not cheesing" when you hide under those crates. Come on... Do you really believe that? Get real. Just think of it this way.. If you have defeated valus in a strike (countless times) you should try and play the nightfall with a similar tactic, but of course more cautious. Just realize when the enemies will start spawning, when valus will start moving, and most importantly, when those goddamn psions come out. (His health bar is the indicator.) Also, know where the enemies are coming from... Get them quick before they spread out. I feel nightfall is the true test of the elite strike players. What grinds my gears - people that hide under the stairs in a regular roc strike. Like.. Why? You can respawn in 30 seconds if things hit the fan.. Especially 32s.. How did u get there if you still need to hide?

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              • Learn what cheese means Never go full retard

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                • My group did the NF in 10 and 11 minutes, really not that hard

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                • Cheesing is glitching the game mechanics. You want to call a strategy cheap? Go ahead but don't try and reinvent a word because you want your topic to be edgy and hip.

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                  • I stand in the light fitting in the roof or under the stairs because its the fastest way to do it...

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                  • Not yet , but once I find a team willing to do it legit - I already know how it should play out. Of course, each person would have to be really good with their characters. As a Titan main, I would put my weapons of light bubble literally within stomping distance of valus, while my teammates get the weapons of light and they shoot rockets, I will keep going out to shotgun valus. When he stomps, I wait in bubble, and go back out for 3-4 shots. A hunger gunslinger would be waiting for the legionaries/phalanxes to come out, gg them after lowering their health first.. A sunsinger warlock would activate radiance to clean up the other legionaries/phalanxes left, and then the Titan has another bubble. Also, with the radiance, you could throw grenades at valus. When he's basking in that solar grenade - notice that he stops shooting his mini gun. Of course, the bubble placement has to be perfect, where the front of it takes valus' shots, and the back is shielded and can provide line of sight towards spawning enemies.

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                  • Edited by SublimeSparo: 4/10/2015 6:34:58 AM
                    weapons of light bubble, middle of the opposite side of room from valus, everyone has 7 gjallys to start. wait for initial salvo from mcdickface. pop the bubble, (weapons of light, illuminated & bastion) get blast shield medal, test him with primary to make sure he's no longer immune then one exits each side (ie left and right) one jumps, everyone unloads 7 rockets, then stand in bubble and pops synth, and repeat can help to have 2 titans, so you can repop bubble if it runs out. if he's not down from that split up and finish him with snipers/ primaries from each side. edit: when they nerf his health 30% this method will be proper easy mode, althoguh pretty easy anyway

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                    • Let me just say this... If Destiny was real and Valus and all the Psion's were going to actually kill you, what would you do?

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                      • Used cheese; still died... [spoiler]Took so long I died from boredom ;)[/spoiler]

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