That is pretty ridiculous... If I'm going for a pick up group on lfg sites for VoG hard, if everyone's got a mic, and is 29 (or 28 if the group agrees to help someone through) or higher, what matters is teamwork and attitude first, then experience, then weapons and level. If it's your 1st raid ever, and you're running a lvl 29 character, I still don't give a -blam!- as long as you're able to learn the strategies, and hold your own when it comes to gunplay. I run a maxed out support based titan for a reason... Edit: spelling, and additionally, I think being a 32 does help damage output/survivability, but that doesn't disqualify a 29 from being useful. As long as the team has enough general skill and teamwork, a group of all 29's can wreck Atheon and have a damn good time doing it