To be fair it only takes two weeks of moderate play, a month if you don't play that much, to hit 31 now that the vanguard sells gear that's higher leveled than vog equips... If someone hasn't been playing a decent amount of time to get used to the mechanics I wouldn't run a raid with them (this applies to all games, not just destiny - if someone hasn't put in the time on the easier stuff, why carry them through the harder parts of the game?) But hey, that's just me, I've only raided with friends on destiny so far because most the time I play online games in game chat it's always either English chavs trying to take the piss out me for being Scottish, Americans trying to imitate my scottish accent and claiming they're 1/116th Scottish or some bs or it's the standard squeaker squad.