Just as it says why? Do people not remember beating this thing with 29s?
Do people not understand a 30 does the same damage as a 32? In VOG
And before you look, i have 3 32s i just laugh at people not letting 30s or even 29s into vog hard....
Get good.
Edit: Okay right on. Glad most everyone agrees i just wasnt understanding the reasons
Edit 2: forgot to say yes first thing i mainly look at is whose got vog weapons. Then i ask if they have done it before lol.
Edit 3: if you ever need help with VOG or Crota. Or nightfalls add me Devohagen
Edit 4: so many replies. Wow. Thanks. Ive only argued a few replies so far lol.
Edit 5: 800 comments and trending! Seems to be people still unaware no extra damage by 32s in VOG is real. Thats too bad. I beat it today with 30s in the group in two portals...
Edit 6: all im saying is people kicking out the 29s 30s are the real scrubs and n00bs. The only people i struggle to play with are squeakers
Edit 7: if you think a 32 does more weapon damage then a 30 in vog you're a n00b and please just dont comment. Also wow 1000 replies.
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I think it's ridiculous as well we used to do it with 28-30 now it's 32 or 31+ it's ridiculous :/
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I always ask for 29+ because I won't have to worry about a 27 not knowing what to do
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Because if your not even good enough to get 31 by now you probably have no idea what you're doing in the vault.
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I did normal Crota as a 28 so there's no reason anyone under lvl 31 should be rejected from hard vault
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I could have just started playing last week and already be at least 31 by now.
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Because most level 30s suck. The good players are almost all at 32, and some at 31
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I think it's coz of health and armour I got kicked when I was 31 and the two 32 had 11 deaths each
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Edited by Robin the Goblin: 4/2/2015 11:56:22 PMYeah... people don't understand damage scaling because they're not used to how balanced the combat in this game is. You deal pretty much the same damage to an enemy at level 20 as you would deal to the same enemy at level 100 (theoretically).
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Level 33+ Here with jellyhorns in all slots. Must know how to cheese add me plz
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It's because reaching level 30 is no longer an achievement, as the Crota raid gets you to 32.
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They want higher levels because they themselves suck on vog. They want to be carry thru it. Last night I get a random invite I'm OK I'll go. Next thing I hear is who is this guy? Then someone else said he's cool he has a fully maxed or gally. They all shut up then. I was on my hunter with an unleveled word of crota and some special, they didn't care, they saw the gally. Players are relying on to much of a certain weapon or level when it can be done without that weapon or level.
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Edited by xRudy: 4/2/2015 11:47:49 PMBecause the people who used to beat it on their 28s, 29s and 30s are now 31+ We don't want random 31s who bought their gear and should actually be 26.
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The people that want only 31+ for VOG are Christmas noobs
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Because you need a 31 or 32 to sword Atheon or you'll wipe like 7 times
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Because not many people have worked hard enough to get to 30 as I the old days
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My Favorite was being kicked from a PUG while wearing the Titan Chest, Arms, Legs, Chatterwhite and the glowy Titan Mark........ I don't have VoG expirence, sure, keep telling yourselves that.
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Edited by Corrick II: 4/2/2015 11:40:23 PMJust pisses me off that [i]all[/i] 31's are shit on because anyone can buy armor that gets them to that light level. A lot of 31's don't deserve it and got there because they are actually good players and [i]stay[/i] there out of sheer bad luck.
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For those who don't the relic is called the aegis. Look in grimiore for more info about it.
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When I get a full raid set, I will wear it and be a full VOG 30, and do more damage and be more effective than if I was wearing my 32 Crota armor, because of the VOG based perks, like Oracle Disruptor. And All you need is Black Hammer and SGA and you will kill Atheon
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If it were me, I would be looking for players with 2200+ Grimoire. This would show that they should have completed a fair amount of content including the VoG. I've run it too many times with 31 & 32s that have never even opened the vault before and let's face it, Crota's End is a glorified strike that is 75% cheesable.
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Because I've seen way too many shit level 32's fail at atheon
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i can only guess they want to weed out newer players and run through the vault as fast as possible with the most experienced players that can throw out the most damage as possible on top of it
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Christmas noobs [spoiler]scrubs[/spoiler]
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I was playing hard mode last night with an LFG group and one of the guys kept dying during Gatekeeper portals. After awhile he said, "oh! I don't have my 32 gear on--I'm only 31. That's why I keep dying." I just laughed. I'm not even coming down on the guy, I just thought it was funny and relevant to this.
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Whenever someone asks for 30+ for VOG I don't join cause if you need 30+ for VOG you most likely are a scrub, and I can't handle the stress.
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I have no problem with 30s but they more than likely have no experience in vog and its very frustrating wiping over and over and over and over