Whenever someone says, "I hope I get the suros" I ask them, "are you sure you still want it after all the auto rifle nerfs?" It gets them every time and then they reply with, "oh yeah your right nevermind." I havnt played pvp for a while, but I hope people understand that there are other gun archetypes to use that are far more better, but then again I do respect and understand it's your game and you choose to play for fun and do what you wish. I don't even bother using the Abyss Defiant vs wizards because of how weak it is even with focus fire on, regardless of the lich bane perk. Unless solar burn is on. IMO [spoiler]Riperino le Peperino Auto Rifles R.I.P.😱[/spoiler]