It's hard to toss around the word or abbreviation "OP" properly in a game filled with so many cheap ways to get killed but many think Felwinter's Lie is this super OP shottie/sniper that ruins PVP. I do die by it often but since I prefer to stick with teammates it's rare to see Felwinter's go on a killing spree due to its poor ROF. So I ask: Is Felwinter's lie flawed and overpowered or balanced by its slow ROF? Thoughts?
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Yes, it's still broken OP. The ammo "fix" still doesn't' address the issue the the Felwinter's distance is way to OP for a shotty. It's more like a mini sniper rifle.
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It's not OP. It has the shortest range of all the other [i]snipers[/i] in the game.
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Edited by Lecteragorn: 3/23/2015 1:43:33 PMThe adjustment to special ammo will fix the felwinters. Less special ammo equals less kills with special ammo.
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Simple: if you have it then it sucks, if you don't then it's "bungee wtf were you thinking putting this god weapon in the game" Personally, I like sword breaker and the vendor secret handshake
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People who have Felwinters: Nah, it's the shit! People without Felwinters: ZOMFG BUNGIE NARF FALWENTERS NOW IS TWO OP!¡! >:(
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It's just really good, That's all.
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That sniper rifle has kinda crappy range yo!
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You can't single out just Felwinters Lie when it's the perks themselves that make it so OP. I have The Crash with field choke, hammer forged, and shot package. Is pretty OP too, though a hair lower on range and impact compared to Felwinters. Point is any shotgun with those perks is basically a one shot kill at fusion rifle range. If no other shotgun could roll those perks it would be unfair but it's a combination that's available outside of Iron Banner, albeit less common since you can't reroll standard legendaries like you can Felwinters.
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Only OP if you let people get that close. Stay medium-long range and you never see a shotgun. My Titans avg kill distance is almost top 500 on xbox so I haven't seen a shotgun death in a long time. All hail Red Death / Sniper combo.
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It's okay. Its definitely a good shotgun. But I have a hide and seek-42 with shot package hammer forged and kneepads and honestly like it more. Its got great range and can still ohk. But it also fires way faster.
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The range of some them are rediculous. I understand that shotguns are supposed to be close quarters, but the range prevents me from firing a single shot!
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No my judgement is better it's on my warlock if u want to check
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It's OP if you don't have it.
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Basically if you miss your first shot you're dead
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It's amazing... As long as you land that first shot at close ranfe otherwise you might be dead before you get another off. I have knee pads and shot package on mine, combined with fleet footed on the Hunter it's so much fun
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I would say no, since the two to the morgue on my titan is better
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It really depends on your play style. Same goes with pretty much any weapon
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Shotguns OP or Nah? [spoiler]fixed your title there[/spoiler]
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The Felwinter's literally changed crucible
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Its op as hell just like couple others with perfect rolls.
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OP from too much range
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Both the judgement and felwinters ruined pvp.
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Oh it's op. I have it and the range is hilarious. The rof is not a problem I've learned to use my hunters speed to force 1v1 encounters
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That sniper rifle is so good! It's borderline OP!
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Shotgun? I thought felwinters lie was a sniper
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Way op, but I just got one and maxed it out . Can't wait to test it