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Edited by c1outMel0n: 3/18/2015 5:49:18 PM
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Destiny = Pay To Play

I hate how one of the weekly strikes REQUIRE you to have TDB expansion; it makes me sick with anger whenever I ask my friend "Hey wanna run through the nightfall strike with me real quick?" and he replies "Nope, can't. It's omnigul." My friend doesn't have the expansion pack. The hell, Bungie?!?! My friend could have gotten an exotic, or a weapon that is absolutely OP in the crucible, but you deny him that chance because of this. He can't get above level 30 either, so that means he gets stomped in the Iron Banner. (There's some Pay To Win for ya.) He can't get HoC and doesn't have G-horn, so it takes forever to find a VoG group that isn't full of the kind and intelligent elitists that we all know and love. There are even places that are from the HoW that people have [i]already glitched into[/i]! (I've done it myself.) The $hit that we are all psyched to throw our money at is already in the game! Why are they making us pay for something that is already in the game?! I'm so afraid that this rumored "Comet, Plague of Darkness" Mega DLC will also feature the content for the other two remaining DLCs. The Comet bs will be so full of Pay To Win/Play at this rate. What if the rumored new subclasses are OP? What if the weapons in this expansion are OP? The bungie I know wouldn't do this. (Hell, any smart company wouldn't do this...) If you don't like speculation then don't read this spoiler. [spoiler]I personally think it's Activision's fault. Bungie never did anything of this magnitude to us loyal fans before they paired up with Activision. They were great to their crowd when they were paired up with Microsoft, even.[/spoiler] Hope you enjoyed my rant. I'll be adding edits later on. Edit 1: I play with him on PS3. He got his own a long time ago, and he got Destiny for his birthday from another friend. Edit 2: You guys totally are right about the term Pay To Play and how I should have expected a lot of expansions. Don't get me wrong, I like the dark below. But I really think that having to pay for content that's already in the game is fuqed up. I don't believe that you should have to pay again for something that you already paid for.

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  • You can get to 31 without the Dark Below expansion.

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    • If you think he's getting wrecked in Iron Banner because he can't get past 30, you have no clue what you're talking about. Last IB I played on my brand new 28 Hunter and did just as well as I'm doing now rocking a 31/32. The penalty is actually relatively minimal. As a 28, my maxed Suros did 4 points less damage per headshot compared to playing on a 32. IIRC, it dropped from 35 --> 31. Assuming 200 health, that's 6 shots to kill at 32 compared to 7 shots to kill at 28. That's not as big of a handicap as most people make it out to be, and that's 4 levels below max. 30 is barely any different. Besides that, vendor gear is 31 capable so it's his fault for being only 30 anyway.

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      • Could be worse. Monthly fee + expansion + retail game price.

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        • Dude, if you really want to see a pay to win game, I refer you to battlefield. [spoiler]that's it. [/spoiler]

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        • >says game is pay to win >game features no micro transactions >wtf.jpg

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          • He denies held the opportunity to play. Fork out the money for the game you support so it can continue to be active for ten years. If you can't afford it or don't want it, don't complain

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          • I'm probs gonna try swap my iTunes cards (i got about $60 worth) for PSN vouchers so i can get TDB and HoW. If i can find a place that does that.

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            • There has been no proof that completed content was or is on the disc. There is no point arguing it and no point worrying about it.

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              • [quote]I hate how one of the weekly strikes REQUIRE you to have TDB expansion; it makes me sick with anger whenever I ask my friend "Hey wanna run through the nightfall strike with me real quick?" and he replies "Nope, can't. It's omnigul." My friend doesn't have the expansion pack. The hell, Bungie?!?! My friend could have gotten an exotic, or a weapon that is absolutely OP in the crucible, but you deny him that chance because of this. He can't get above level 30 either, so that means he gets stomped in the Iron Banner. (There's some Pay To Win for ya.) He can't get HoC and doesn't have G-horn, so it takes forever to find a VoG group that isn't full of the kind and intelligent elitists that we all know and love. There are even places that are from the HoW that people have [i]already glitched into[/i]! (I've done it myself.) The $hit that we are all psyched to throw our money at is already in the game! Why are they making us pay for something that is already in the game?! I'm so afraid that this rumored "Comet, Plague of Darkness" Mega DLC will also feature the content for the other two remaining DLCs. The Comet bs will be so full of Pay To Win/Play at this rate. What if the rumored new subclasses are OP? What if the weapons in this expansion are OP? The bungie I know wouldn't do this. (Hell, any smart company wouldn't do this...) If you don't like speculation then don't read this spoiler. [spoiler]I personally think it's Activision's fault. Bungie never did anything of this magnitude to us loyal fans before they paired up with Activision. They were great to their crowd when they were paired up with Microsoft, even.[/spoiler] Hope you enjoyed my rant. I'll be adding edits later on. Edit 1: I play with him on PS3. He got his own a long time ago, and he got Destiny for his birthday from another friend. Edit 2: You guys totally are right about the term Pay To Play and how I should have expected a lot of expansions. Don't get me wrong, I like the dark below. But I really think that having to pay for content that's already in the game is fuqed up. I don't believe that you should have to pay again for something that you already paid for.[/quote] A game company needs to give something to its season pass holders bc they bought the dlc and if u didn't buy it well then you shouldn't be allowed to use what someone else has paid for. Have a good sir

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              • Edited by huskerkme: 3/19/2015 2:15:13 PM
                I agree with you on your speculation, but I do t have TDB either and I'm at 31

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                • [i]I agree with you! It's like going to the movies I paid for the ticket so the popcorn should be free. Or going to a club you pay $20 to get in so the beer should be free. Or buying a burger the fries & drink should be free. Paying for a flight my luggage should be free. This whole business model is horrible. [/i]

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                • The full content isn't one the disc. This is actually very common now with games being made bigger. This is done usually by putting sections of map or other forms of framework preloaded onto the disc. This is done to make dlc download faster since there is less to actually be downloaded. I know a lot of people get mad about this but I really don't mind. It's better than waiting half the day for it to download on release date. I'd also suspect that some of the updates and other dlc modify and add to the framework for future dlc. With games like destiny that also keep some of the information sever side this can be even more important. Server side info would be players, enemies, gear, and most anything that isn't the map itself. That ends up being a lot that must be tracked in real time and transmitted to all the systems connected to that server. Now for this it would matter if it map data were in the disc or downloaded with the dlc, but it could not run well being streamed from the server without very long loading times. And even then it would greatly slow the servers. So functionally, pre loading some of the content onto the disc may be the best option.

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                • Aren't most video games pay to play...

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                • It's 12 bucks go mug someone so you can buy the expansion, problem solved.

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                • Edited by AustinTamf: 3/19/2015 1:57:22 PM
                  Hahahhahahaha!!! Its dlc. Its not expensive either.

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                • This post is so stupid i don't think i even can argue. "Pay to play"

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                • And you can get past level 30 and if done right coukdve got to 32 without the expansion. Its called iron banner

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                • All games are pay to play you pay 60$ to play destiny so you pay to play unless of course it's ftp

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                  • The areas weren't complete, and besides that, it's rather common for day one dlc and season pass stuff nowadays. Stop acting like Destiny is the first and only game that's done this.

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                  • You could tell your friend to stop being such a cheap ass.

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                  • Your right bungie is a real dirty rotten sneak, and there is a lot of people that just love getting ripped off.

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                  • I felt so bad for my friend I got him the dlc.

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                  • I agree its a load of shit. Gta fir ecample has released over 10 dlcs and numerous patches and guess how much they charge for them..... fùck all!

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                    • Destiny is. A 16 age limit point one Point two seriously tell him save pocket money in face don't just tell him save up 4 how gonna supersede everything anyway

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                    • Honestly, why would you even still be playing this game if you did not buy the expansion?

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                    • Search bar. .. this is old news and no one really cares

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