Last update was two weeks ago. What do you need proof for? I said I made guesses based on the information in the doc. The doc is more valid than anything you have to offer. Regardless, there is nothing I said that you can prove is wrong or outdated. I have a SUROS, so I can confirm all those numbers and the kill time. In fact, I have almost all the most used Crucible weapons in the game, so I can confirm everything in this doc. I'm not really sure what you're trying to argue or get at, but you can continue if you want, because everything I said was right, so I don't really know what your point is, besides what we already agreed upon (Autos shouldn't beat others if both players are accurate)