Ok dude I was willing to give you the benefit of doubt that you actually know what your talking about as a fellow gamer. You sure showed me how wrong I was. So either your a troll (and I hope so for your sake) or your a gaming moron (that means your an idiot who doesn't understand how games work and has little experience playing them) that's never finished the game. Do you know what Satire mean? do you understand what a social critique is? Only an absolute idiot would take GTA story at face value (like the majority of the moron media). GTA has from the very beginning (GTA 1 in 2D) has been satire of our modern day culture!!! Its a critic of our modern day American dream. The story reflects this if you take the time to actually listen and watch the cut scenes, player dialogue and radio channels. Now if you don't like it fair enough, that your opinion but comparing it to destiny's turd of an excuse for a story is simply moronic. (one game has a story even if you don't like it and the other has nothing) Now to talk about release: The game launched without any problems!!! however the online was buggy as hell. But your where still able to play the single player mode without any problem. It took Rockstar about a month to fix the online so that it actually worked properly. The Online was and remain totally FREE!!! There is no hidden cost, there is no pay to play, there is not DLC that installs a pay wall!!! However there are shark cards that allow you buy credit in game (this would be like Destiny allowing you to buy glimmer or materials)/. Now on the other hand you have Destiny who was buggy at launch (inexcusable for a online only game), Has no story to speak of, Charges you for every bit of content (no matter how glitchy and buggy it is), releases DLC that install pay walls and forces you to regrind your weapons, Nerfs the game to force you to play the way they want you to play (boost their own user stats) and rewards noobs and time wasters of actual gamers (RNG fiasco). Come on Noobsrtoast wake up and smell the dooty :) Keep gaming and save the FRACKING world

[quote]your a gaming moron (that means your an idiot[/quote] Oh the irony

Again obviously gta is satire and not meant To be taken seriously, but the story itself is supposed to be looked at on a. Serious not, except maybe Trevor, and yours is an online game to there pal you are being very one sided, not only was the online portion your game buggy as hell but at least our online game didn't delete your characters, an I love how even in all that text you fail to address The point that it takes more to finish an area than simply having the map there, I'll explain it to you from a developers standpoint and yes I am a developer so thank you for making yourself look stupid, you have to iron out Any bugs you find in said area, add proper collision code I your selected language to make sure that cutscenes or enemy spawns or mission objectives if there are any activate when they should, an this is just making sure The area loads correctly and activates objectives properly, doing just this can take days maybe even weeks for even a small area, then after that you have to try and iron out any glitches or bugs that pop up in said area, then you have to spawn enemies in that area, which is a HUUUGE task in itself, make sure that all the player interactions trigger when they should, any collectible objects Actually collect when interacted with by the player, and do one last ironing out of any bugs, this can sometimes take months especially for an online mmo game like destiny, so learn about the profession before you actually make accusations of it "already being on the disk", you keep going on and on about how "gta online is free", but i keep seeing limited time dlc that yes are free, But in fact if you wanted to grind money for some of the stuff in said dlc you wouldn't have enough time to save up for it all and would lose the opportunity, unless of course you Buy these cash packs!!!, exactly and how Many limited time dlc have there been for gta? Again, exactly, and before you bring up the exotic weapon updates in destiny, let's just keep the weapons at The same attack stats when the dlc drops So they are horribly underwhelming in the new activities makes so Much sense right, same with vendor legendaries makes so much sense, like I said learn what you are talking about before you actually talk about it

Huh? Where did you see me say anything about destiny Devs??? Where did I talk about content on disk??? Stop putting words in my mouth and get to the fracking point!!! You claim to be a dev (developer). OK I'll give you the benefit of doubt. Everything you said about development in defense of Destiny is even more applicable to GTA!!! GTA is a bigger game (here we are talking map size), It is in 3rd person (more thing happening at the same time, bigger area of vue), More items and objects interacting at any one time and lets not forget a shit load of customization items. So thanks for making my point for me :). Any problem that Destiny dev cry about GTA dev have had to deal with on a greater scale. Now to your snide little comment about GTA online being FREE: yes dude no matter how you look at it GTA is FREE (that means that you don't have to pay money for it, got it?). The limited time DLC your going on about is also FREE!!! and its not really time limited as you can still buy most of it today (except St Valentine pack). But then again buddy you didn't pay for it (FREE). Now compare that to destiny you big Fanboy :). I'm going to address your issue with deleted characters...YES its true there where some Big issues at launch of the Online portion of the game (here I have to say that there is a single player mode that had no issues). It sucked monkey balls and pissed off a huge portion of the gaming community. But guess what? Rockstar apologized and fixed it! (Wow Destiny should try that sometime :). Maybe you should take off your Fanboy glasses and have an honest look at the two games. Or maybe you should just get some gaming experience stop being a total Noob (one level 32 LOLOLOLOL) and actually game before you talk crap about stuff you obviously don't understand. PS. dude don't take it too personally... :) and don't stop gaming

Future war FPS, sooo original!! CoD halo and maybe mass effect *cough*

Bank heists an stealing cars, only every movie and game since the 90's

There barely any games about heists.

Really *cough* payday *cough* bf hardline *cough* mafia and mafia 2 *cough* the old driver games *cough*

So barely means none? *cough* fail *cough*