Last night with my level 30 Hunter I pulled raid gauntlets after lamps and, after bridge, pulled raid chestpiece and.....abyss defiant! Never pulled suros or any other decent auto for that matter. Now I have this beast! This was all possible because a nice group if 32's and 1 31 let me in on some raid action. This really gave me an unexpected and awesome boost to my hunter, and also some experience being that it was my first time in Crota. family man here with not a whole lot of time to devote to marathon raiding....si big shout out to that group! To all my fellow guardians, specifically the newb Crota raiders...... There is hope!