[quote]http://youtu.be/GMQ_f4NoNVc[/quote] I'm just going to watch that again with the same look of skepticism on my face as when I saw some of those pictures... He complains about the menu drops... He complains about the vault space... He complains about the timeline of updates... He says assault rifles are "pellet shooting garbage" guns... OP. I've been around for... yikes, close to 20 years of gaming... I honestly have no clue why this is a problem only for the current generation of gamers but... that is 100% entitlement talking. I am a 100% anti-entitlement gamer. You should earn it by putting hours into a game, by any means necessary, to gain access to something. That's just it. ACCESS. There's no backing of neutrality in the video. There's no talk about how to improve ANYTHING... it's literally a kid, posting a video online, saying how much he dislikes the update. Tell me how that is constructive by ANY means? Bitching, whining, Wahbulance videos? That's your reason for posting this? [b]Let's get down to the 1.1.1 shall we?[/b] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/News/News?aid=12607]Link to 1.1.1 full patch notes.[/url] [u]Weapons[/u] [i]Auto Rifles[/i] -Reduced base damage of Auto Rifles by 2.5% -Reduced effective range values At current ranges? I can kill someone, with Suro's, from control point A to B on Rusted in PvP no different then before. A to C? Scout rifle territory. Pulse Rifles? B to C and B to A through side wall opening. In PvE? I am still getting 3 kills a clip minimum across all planets and their respective patrols/level 30 missions. The 2.5%? Was not high enough. [i]Pulse Rifles[/i] -Increased base damage of Pulse Rifles by 9.7% If you go into a crucible match and not see one now you are lucky. It's vastly easier to kill people at medium range. In PvE? Three Little Words is my primary pulse rifle at the moment and I won't be putting it in my vault anytime soon. I still have Bad Juju in there too. That will be going onto my warlock once he's done leveling his "Another Nitc" scout rifle. His perks will easily allow him to wreck any PvE environment with it. [i] Hand Cannons[/i] -Slightly reduced effective range -Slightly reduced initial accuracy Still 2 shooting people with Thorn. The Last Word accuracy is still too low for me to use in PvP. PvE? 29 Warlock. 30 Hunter. 31 Titan (only need radiant shards to get him to full 32). I put Thorn or The Last Word on any of them? I'll solo nightfalls with them and the appropriate special/heavy weapons for how nice they are in PvE. [i]Fusion Rifles[/i] -Widened blast pattern on a Fusion Rifle burst cone -Reduced starting ammunition in PVP I actually don't use this as often anymore in PvP, but when I do? High impact fusion rifles from the factions are not impacted by the widened blasting pattern. These need some more loving for the impact they bring. It's asking people to get wrecked in PvP if the cone isn't increased a little more. PvE? They are still the best reference weapons for dispatching loads of enemies (commonly thralls) then shotguns so... Lastly? [quote]Option 1: 3126 Option 2: 1000 Option 3: 713 Over 3,750 votes requesting a buff. Lets go Bungie![/quote] If the amount of voters, legitimately counted with no duplicates or anything else, was in the ten thousands I wouldn't be one to sign up for such a thing and you know why? Because 9.4 million people bought Destiny across four consoles. Good luck with a straw poll of less then 10k...