As it sits the V8 is superior to those piece of shit low impact AR's from every other vendor. Im grinding up NM rank right now to grab the stock version and crossing my fingers for a good drop one. I got caught out of water this IB because my old SP (Spray and play, f.scout, glass half full....yeah....you can drool over it) just wasnt up to snuff this time and I cant even use those low impact AR's (literally they feel like something other than an AR to me). But im still gonna rock my SP in reg. crucible.