Currently, it is slightly easier to grind for vanguard vs. crucible marks. Vanguard marks are given in many situations such as public events, even nightfall and weeklies. If the ROC is the equivalent to the crucible, it would be nice to have a crucible equivalent to the other options. I guess you could implement a system where if you wear the faction items, you would get marks and rep as well for ONLY public nightfall etc. I don't know though. I guess this would not fare well with certain players, but mostly, it would render the crucible event useless. Wanted to post this to get some brain storming from people to achieve this without really breaking the use for crucible. I kind of thought the Material trade in for mark was decent. Why? Because the materials we traded in for the marks we got were really not all that worth it. yet, people who absolutely hated PvP did it anyways (you got some ok glimmer too). I felt while this was ok, it felt very disconnected and boring. I personally don't mind crucible very much, but I was trying to speak on behalf of both pvpers and pvers. Perhaps a mark system like IB where if you lose, you would collect tokens that turned into marks? etc. <---i felt this would probably be most in line with it since it is pvp related. I dunno brain storm away!