In a fight to the death, who would win? First round is raw power. I.e, no "past, present, future" bologna and no oversoul either.
Second round involves minions. Discuss?
Edict 1: I said edict on purpose.
Edict 2: Ir Yut VS Gatekeeper.
Edict 3: WOW FIFTY PEOPLE COMMENTED!
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Without Timestream or Oversoul I'd have to give it to Crota, you can still hurt Atheon without Times Vengeance but it's weaker... yet crota requires the sword to damage him. Although if the abilities were in play, I'd give it go Atheon because Crota is kind of a bitch who relies on his minions too much. Hive vs Vex: Vex win, they have Grenades and all have guns, only acolytes and boomers have guns, and the wizard shooter thing doesn't really affect the praetorians shield....