Most of us are blinded by the holiness of RNGsus. But I'm a sceptic and a non-believer, so I have a theory of why YOU wont get a certain weapon, but others will.
Now, we all think that it's all based on RNG, but I don't really think so. I do understand the concept of randomness, but I don't believe that's a fact in this concern.
I am gonna use two examples:
Player 1:
- has Thunderlord and Gjallarhorn
- want Ice Breaker and SUROS
Player 2:
- has SUROS and Ice Breaker
- want Thunderlord and Gjallarhorn
Player 1 and 2 keeps on grinding for their wanted weapons, but usually get random crap drops. And to top that, they get multiple drops of the exotics they already have. (like me, i've gotten 3 No Land Beyond from Crota)
And this is where my theory comes in...
Bungie has a system (fixed RNG), that basicly makes it (nearly) impossible for you to get the weapons you are missing. It's like your profile is assigned to certain weapons. Me, I get SUROS all the time.
So a simple example for this system would be:
"Drops assigned to Player 1: Thunderlord, Gjallarhorn etc" (these are the drops always handed out)
"Drops avoided for Player 1: Ice Breaker, SUROS, etc" ( these are the drops that might never happen)
(same with Player 2,3,4,5,6,7, infinity)
I know there are many RNGsus followers out there, and by all means, praise him! But me, I'm not fooled by this non-sense anymore. Just like anything else, Bungie likes to control the community, so they control RNG as well.
Yeah, I know, Bungie started selling Ice Breaker, which was hard to get for many of us. But that was also their decision. Why do you think it became available shortly after CE? To soothe the masses to keep them playing.
Conclusion: Players will always get the same drops, and will most likely never get that one thing they are missing (in my case Gjallarhorn).
Hope i made sense. I've been thinking about this for a long time, but never been able to put a word to it. Maybe i wasn't able now either... I might be wrong, but I'm sure my points makes it clear enough.
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I see many say they have all Exotics, and asks me to explain that. Well, that's cause Bungie decided that your profile, amongst others, could. That's why.
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*sigh* This wasn't actually meant to be a post about weapons never dropping, cause they can. It's just that it is controlled by Bungie. Sure, some of you have played for 500 hours and finally gotten a certain weapon. But because the community is continously growing, Bungie decides to hand out X amount of, ie, GHs a day, but still manage to control the weapon flow.
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People seem to be believe I'm saying stuff never drops. If it says that somewhere in my post (I've tried to reword myself), that's not what I'm saying. Please, read my post over again, especially "edit 2".
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Well, I expected a lot of flaming since my so called theory is far fatched, flawed and simply crappy :P
I've tried my best to answer most posts I've seen fit. Thankfully most have been serious posts. Some not.
I am now going to get a beer and my whisky bottle, sit down, and play some Strikes. Will check in later to see if this is still alive.
Hopefully I will prove myself wrong and get GH tonight... hrhrhhr
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..You..You literally just described [b]R[/b]NG.
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I have all the exotics. Not sure where i fall into all this nonsense
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I definetly fall into the player 2 category.
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Had the same thought. Ghorn won't drop for me but I had all other exotic weapons once xur sold dragons breathe (minus crux which wasn't available at the time). Still no ghorn for hundreds of hours after having almost all.
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I have been blessed with 11 exotics in 2 weeks
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I thought the same. Until I got Every exotic as of last week to complete all the exotics in this Game for Xbox. I was missing Necrochasm and Red Death.I got finally got it. As if the game knew I NEEDED red death to complete my stash of guns. Out of all the guns it could have gave me, I got red death!
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I've only ever seen one gjallarhorn drop, it just has a very statistically small chance of dropping
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I've had thunderlord and ice breaker drop but no suros or g-horn
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utter crap It could be so, but to back that hypothesis you need to write down or save all videos from all drops you get for weeks and multiple people. Good experiments and statistics have to be done to make such a claim.
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Must just be lucky. Got two bought one and just need gally
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Edited by xpuddytatx: 2/19/2015 10:33:34 PMYou have a good but flawed theory. I don't agree that some guns aren't on the table, but just harder to pull. Let's say there are 3 loot tables, each with 3 exotics. Each table has 100 items in it: [u]table1[/u] 60 ghorn 39 suros regime 1 hawkmoon [u]table 2[/u] 60 suros regime 39 hawkmoon 1 ghorn [u]table 3[/u] 60 hawkmoon 39 ghorn 1 suros regime Now based on your theory that each profile is assigned a loot table on creation, a player getting table 3 in my example may pull the hawkmoon a lot, but play 1500 hours before seeing a suros. This would explain why people have every exotic, and also explain why some people have pulled multiples of one item, but have never seen another. EDIT: I've pulled at least 2 of every exotic gun, but have never gotten a red death nor a vex. I've pretty much written those two off as "aint happenin"
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So it won't drop for me. How very disappointing. :-( [spoiler] Oh, wait. I got it last night from the nightfall. [/spoiler]
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3 universal remotes, 2 last word, 2 Patience and time, 2 suros, 2 ice breaker, no ghorn.
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Yup. In one day I got two hard lights. One from an engram, the other from crucible. I also get patience and time frequently I got one from engram one from crucible and one from Deathsinger. I don't believe you get assigned certain exotics, just that you are assigned to get ones more often, I still think you can get every exotic RNG. I didn't buy suros and was mad and then finally got one on Deathsinger. Now with exotic bountys I get one just about every day.
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I have them all.....even red death
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Edited by Rowie: 2/19/2015 10:17:49 PM
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I honestly think some people get more of a certain exotic drop more frequently because trading was going to be a thing early on.
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I see what you are saying. Agree. Bungie are názi man children selling poison to dumb kids.
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But I have all exotics :(
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Brah, I've got icebreaker AND Thunderlord. You need proof; check out my characters.
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You sir, are an idiot
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I got Thunderlord from leveling my Cryptard a couple days ago. Everyone has IB. Xur sold it at least twice, maybe 3 times.
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But, I thought I'd never get the ghorn because maybe I was assigned a low drop rate for it but I got my first one 3 weeks ago and today I'm on my 4th one and same with icebreaker. So it's just randomness and it's all luck.
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I bought IB from Xur, have Thunderlord and GHorn, and recieved Suros back when you could still get a blue item from a purple engram.
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I got 1 Suros REGIME, 1 Thunderlord and 2 Xur Icebreakers. Never got any other from them. So I can't find your theory viable.
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But I have all of these