Praetorian Foil is a sensational weapon in PvP and PvE thanks to impact, range and perks.
Praedyths Timepiece is similarly excellent in PvP and PvE with Arc burn, field scout and high rate of fire.
Good weapons once leveled, but if not your thing then Ce La Vie
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Yea I had timepiece fully leveled, found it good in PvP but not that great in pve being as I have other guns I like better now. When you have a lot of weapons you sometimes have to make choices on what's more valuable to you to make room for others. I just didn't find these weapons worth keeping for my self. I'm not saying they're not good, I'm just saying they're not great.