I'll try to put this in simpleton terms, the guns base stats without modifiers"the different barrels and perks" are the same, the different rolls for barrels and stats make the two guns different, but if they got the exact same rolls and barrels they would be the same. Simpleton Translator: dur da dur da dur dun far dar lumpity lippity nar nar ballsack poopy butt nar nar guhn shooty bullats purdy