http://kotaku.com/five-months-in-hardcore-destiny-players-are-hitting-a-1684813586
This is not a bash. It comes from someone who, like many of us, really likes Destiny but is reaching a point of burn-out. The things that popped out to me are the lack of carrots and poor communication from Bungie.
If you trawl the forums, you'll find many threads dedicated to each point made, but this is a handy summation of the frustration hardcore Destiny players are, and have been, facing of late.
I'm no hater, and like Kirk, the article's author, I know there's an unbelievable game inside Destiny. I'm looking forward to HoW, but until then, it'll just have to be a strike now and again.
Edit 1: You guys all rock. It's been a very clear-headed conversation in here so far, aside from some weak trolls. And thanks for the bumps! I think it's good to read what a lot of us have been thinking.
Edit 2: I'm pretty sure the forum ninjas have buried any Kotaku-related posts so they don't trend. That's their prerogative, and somewhat understandable despite the normal levels of vitriol you can generally find on these forums.
Feel free to bump if you think others should read it but, after over twenty-four hours of pretty constant replies from you crazy, magnificent bastards, it's fair to say that we don't need an article to spur healthy discussion about one of our favorite games.
[spoiler]You guys are -blam!-ing killing my phone.[/spoiler]
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I like carrots... What's this post even about? I'm too lazy to read it.
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I only have one goal- to get bounties done so I can get my Titan to 32 and that's enough of a struggle Don't bother with more than one nightfall a week unless I get something really good (so never) Weeklys just to keep my strange coin count over 50 been spending a lot over the past couple of weeks Other than those I don't even start the game IB would be nice just to give me a reason to play for a week
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I'm burned out but maybe I'll return for HoW
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How will keep most of us playing. Grinding for new armor and weapons plus a new raid. We all know we'll be grinding and grinding as soon as new exotics are available.
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We deserved a campaign. Anyone who says we got one is arrogant.
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I'm feeling the same way. I haven't been keeping up on bounties. I just do the nightfalls and the weekly and maybe the daily stories with 1 or 2 of my guys. I've only been playing since late January so I can't imagine the burn out some of u guys have that have been playing since day 1.
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I'm getting into that burnout I think. The Strikes are tedious anymore with the unmutable narration, the same exact encounters over and over again. Cripes you could randomize the locations of enemies, enemy types, weapons loadouts for said enemies, and so on. Loot, good or even decent loot, does not drop nearly enough. I'd be fine with just more legendary drops, there's plenty of legendary stuff I haven't used yet. Fun events like the "enemies engaging each other" don't happen nearly enough. Patrols are boring as shit to higher levels. The raids, while fun, rely on third party sites to organize a team. Why is there no in-game support? I mean I do like the game, it's got potential to be something spectacular...it's just lacking alot.
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I haven't even hit 300 hours and I'm burned out.
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Very good article.
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Bumpitty
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The people who are experiencing burn-out are either playing [u]alot[/u] or aren't playing with friends.
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Kotaku is that actual player ?
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This is why it never hurts to take a break from things. I don't think that a game out their today can keep someone entertained for the amount of hours the hardcore guys put in. If your putting in 700 or more hours per dlc, and are currently pushing 1400 or more hours total, aside from personal challenges you set for yourself, you will likely be burned out. I'm really looking forward to getting another dlc and I'm only a little over 500 hours. If it's the same size as DarkBelow well atleast it's summer time soon
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Problem is its a console game. Only 30 per cent of players have ever done a raid. There is zero point in Bungie breaking there back and empting there wallets for tons of content if only 5 per cent will see it. We are the 5 per cent. Most console gamers dont play till the end of any game. Even The Order most havent finished it. It just sounds like evryone is burnt out because we the 5 per cent are on this forum. I would say about 4 per cent of the millions who bought the game are burnt out. You dont cater to 4 per cent. It doesnt make sense and you wouldnt say employed if you did
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It's not the games fault It's the fact that people spend 1000+ hours playing then blame Bungie for lack of content
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Taking a break for a little while helps although this is my go-to Pvp game. House of wolves is soon among us maybe it'll surprise all of us.
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Sounds like people are spending too much time playing. Play a game like it is your job and you have no right to complain that it feels like work.
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This article really opened my eyes to why I don't enjoy games as much as I did when I was younger. I played games back then because they were fun. Now I play to progress ranks or get loot and rewards. Every time I get new bounties I just think I have to get these done as quickly as possible to get this over with. That shouldn't be the mentality I have when I play video games. It's kind of depressing to me. Hodor.
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I guess I'm lucky I only bought this game in late January. I'm close too burned out as is.
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Ugh destiny sucks ass
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I would honestly go down in the books as being a guy who would not play Destiny, but the thing is, I've been up and down with video games for over 30 years now and I know better then to say I don't like something when I play it even once a month. The thing is, and this is very difficult to explain to anyone who is in or below their late 20's... one must be cognoscenti of the process at work and allow it to progress at it's proper and due diligence pace. It's the EXACT same thing in the work environment. I could list a thousand different paths, options, alternatives, and potential expansion ideas to Destiny. It flows so naturally since I work with computers where, in a very broad sense, our jobs is to find multiple solutions for a single problem. However... there is the concepts and definitions of control, quality assurance, motivation, player options (menu and extension menu paths all rolled into one), and many other things, but there is also the warning signs of those who are too young, too inexperienced, and too easily fed up because of many different reasons. Maybe it's cultural. Maybe generational. Maybe it's just a matter of maturity. Kotaku. I don't know what that is. What is the norm for its content. I don't know anything about it. I see the man who wrote this, Kirk Hamilton though, was not professional enough to post a small bibliography explanation for himself like most self respecting journalists are trained to do. This might be a blogger. That's fine. Go to his Twitter... "Writer, composer, saxophonist, omnivore. Editor at @Kotaku. Video games, music, guacamole. Portland, OR, Joined April 2009". Google.com "Kirk Hamilton" Result: http://kirkhamilton.com/ I like the website. I also like anime. I see he's writing a quick article. At glance, I can immediately see this person is a quality person who writes reviews for music, as well as be a musician, and is involved with video games. Why did I do all of that for 1 minute of my time? Because if it took 20 minutes of my time? I'd still put in the effort. Knowing someone so well on a professional level is the baseline for understanding the person behind the computer screen. You don't get that from normal day to day interactions. You don't see the person so much as you see what you like in the person. The exact same concept applies to every video game around the world. The bad thing? I can already tell this writer has entrenched himself in concepts of specific nature towards Destiny which is not worth my time of day. As a review writer... especially as a review writer... I have to hold myself to a higher form of accuracy which is ultimately expressed in an age old philosophy: "I know what I know... I know what I don't know... and I don't know... what I don't know." Now I could explain the history of such a statement, but I'd rather just get on with this post. The review writer, Mr. Hamilton, is not trying to take the saying and apply it to the review. As such, it holds no evidence or integrity to me. I cannot begin to explain the negative ramifications of using source material, found in various places across the internet and in real life, when the internet and people in real life have always violated the fundamental rule of history. Destiny offers a lot of capabilities to people. It's interactive entertainment. It's not meant to be this grand scheme of things you wish it to be. Personality conflicts with a video game is asking for a shorter tunnel vision. I should know. I left Halo because of it. My last game for Halo, as well as watching anything related to it, was because I saw the quality assurance drop. I still see it. Companies NEED to innovate. Destiny is the FIRST shooter to introduce the concepts it has across the both sets of playstation AND Xbox consoles. You don't get any better then that. Forget the entire argument of content. Name one other game which can compare to Destiny capabilities. Don't think of the negative. Be mindful of it, know it is there, but realize the truth of the situation is not to break down and say how you experience one thing, talk to a few people in real life, jump on for a strike, go to a subreddit website, read a few conversations, and highlight things when the entire internet. Literally all of it... encompasses a grand total of 1/3 to 1/4 of the entire Destiny base for a single console. For all four? It's significantly smaller. It's funny I'm back to reddit.com of all websites. I left that website for good reason. It wasn't because of /r/destinythegame either. It was /r/politics. The quality assurance of that website is so far down the expectations guidelines it is widely revered by numerous professions to be the place where those who want to understand something, but understand nothing of the spirit of things and then say those who speak up are wrong, go. I would NEVER reference reddit.com. It's like referencing wikipedia.com on a scholarly paper. Your entire work would be thrown out because of it. I wish reddit to be quality. But it is a collection of articles, poorly written, by individuals like Mr. Hamilton which makes me wonder not at the integrity of a person or individual reading, but about the biggest picture of them all: If they make these mistakes... what is to happen in the future when they use these experiences to justify their own choices because no one informed them they were incorrect in doing those things at all? Where does that put societies? Countries? Leaders? I'll tell you where. In a worse place... because you repeated history. The history of not acknowledging your own biased stances. It's not wrong to be biased. You just have to be so mindful of it you allow it to change yourself. But we all know how people detest change... don't we, Destiny community?
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My clan pretty much just jumps online for reset day and xursday. I'm literally leveling my Dragons Breath / SGA / No Land Beyond because I have nothing left to level :T at least MKX drops on Tuesday, I'll have something to help kill the time until HoW lol A good idea in preparation for HoW is to bring all your faction reputations to 2400/2500 and leave it there, the day before HoW drops have 10 bounties completed, but don't turn them in. This way when the expansion comes you can turn in your bounties one by one and get a new package from Vanguard / Crucible / Dead Orbit / Future War Cult / and New Monarchy. Hopefully you'll get some new legendary gear or weapons with updated attack values on day 1! I'm also planning on having my vanguard and crucible marks maxed the week before just in case there are some sweet vendor items to buy. I just hope I'll have enough Sapphire wire / plasteel / hadronic essences for the new upgrades by then :)
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Instead of everyone complaining about being burnt out of destiny just stop playing it, it's that simple. No ones forcing you to buy or play it, and we're not forcing you to buy future destiny titles.
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Only 4 of my clan were online for the reset this week. Usually we bang out the nightfall/weekly and jump into a raid.
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Read the article and agree with almost every word. This game could have been so much better. Not buying another title unless some serious changes are made.