Esoteric Lore Questions

[b]*I will ask a series of questions, and you may try to answer them. I don't know the answers myself. You may also ask your own questions, which I, or other commenters may try to answer*[/b] [b]1) What would happen we place Vex radiolarian cells inside a living creature?[/b] We know it infects, causes hallucicanations, and lead to "spiritual" experiences. Would it have any long term effects? Would the hallucinations have any meaning behind them? [quote]The cellular Vex elements are infectious, hallucinogenic, entheogenic. (Ghost Fragment: Vex 4)[/quote] [b]2) What would we find if we sequenced the genomes of the Hive's worms? same for the Vex cells.[/b] We know Ahamkara genomes have been sequenced, and they're supposedly pretty weird. How would the worm genomes compare to Ahamkara genomes, given their physical similarities and other connections? For Vex cells, they might have genomes made of some exotic molecules in structures different than familiar double helixes (the worms/Ahamkara might also), but what if they actually have the same type of genome we're familiar with on Earth? [quote]We were there for the Ahamkara, parasitic reptilian critters that appeared out of thin air. Inexplicable genome. New proteins. So much potential. ([url=https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3kxclc/spoilers_inside_caydes_treasure_island_notes/]Cayde's writings[/url])[/quote] [quote]The living creatures themselves, we found a hundred meters down. They might have been worms, if worms had scales and teeth and moved more quickly than a man could run. [...] There is no returning to what you were before: a believer of science, and the fundamental rationality of the universe. Not after seeing those worms. (Ghost Fragment: The Ocean of Storms 2)[/quote] [b]3) Could we gain powers or knowledge from the Darkness by reading Oryx's Tablets of Ruin?[/b] The Tablets are full of secrets obtained by Oryx from when he killed the worm god Akka. The Tablets allow him to speak to the Darkness, and that is how the Darkness gave him the power of Taking. We encounter the Tablets of Ruin when fighting Golgoroth. I'd love to read them and see what happens... or maybe have someone else do it, and watch from a safe distance. [quote]Auryx the First Navigator set upon his god with his sword and his words, and cut Akka to pieces, and took from those pieces the secret of calling upon the Deep. He wrote this secret on a set of tablets, which he called the Tablets of Ruin. And he wore them about his waist. Then Auryx said, “Now I may speak to the Deep, the beautiful final shape. I will be King of Shapes. I will learn all the secrets of our destiny.” If we directed our worship to the worms of the dreadnaught? How much more powerful could we get while inside the dreadnaught, or other Hive throne worlds? (Verse 3:8 — King of Shapes)[/quote] [b]4) If those of us who achieved godhood in a Hive throne world died in regular space without a ghost to revive us, would we be reborn in the throne world like a Hive god?[/b] The symbiotic worms living inside the Hive not only make them immortal, but allow them to get more and more power as they kill other living things. This is called sword logic. The laws of physics and causality can be broken with sufficient sword logic, and they can do amazing things like cutting holes through space itself, and creating throne worlds which pocket universes forged by their minds which they return to when they die. They can keep coming back unless they're killed in their throne world. We don't have worms, but the rules of sword logic is a physical law inside throne worlds, and that allows us to become a gods by killing gods. If you killed both Oryx, then you are a god, because you have the sword logic of killing him. So the question is, if you did not make a throne world, but you have become a god there by gaining the necessary sword logic, would you be reborn there upon death if your ghost does not revive you? [quote]You are no longer bound by causal closure. Your will defeats law. Kill a hundred of your children with a long blade, Auryx, and observe the change in the blade. Observe how the universe shrinks from you in terror. (Verse 2:6 — The Sword Logic)[/quote] [quote]Your body is gone, but you have endured. Safe in the cyst universe created by your own might — your throne world. From this day forward, Auryx, you and your sisters will each survive death — so long as you aren’t killed in your own throne. (Verse 2:7 — The Weakness Verse)[/quote] [quote]The Vex clattered around, constructing large problems. At first their constructions were deranged, because they didn’t understand the sword logic, which defined all rules in Oryx’s throne world. The geometry perplexed them. (Verse 4:9 — open your eye : go into it)[/quote] [quote]it set about abducting and killing dangerous organisms so it could bootstrap itself to Hive godhood. (Verse 4:9 — open your eye : go into it)[/quote] [b]5) Would worshiping worms outside of a throne world give us powers to bend reality?[/b] We know that worshipping worms give you powers to alter reality, but does it only work in throne worlds? [quote]By directing worship at the worms, Quria learned it could alter reality with mild ontopathogenic effects. Being an efficient machine, Quria manufactured a priesthood and ordered all its subminds to believe in worship. (Verse 4:9 — open your eye : go into it)[/quote] [b]6) What would we find if we chemically analyze Eliksni (Fallen) ether?[/b] What would you find? Ether was everywhere in the planet that they came from, but it can't just be a simple gas like oxygen, it has to be very complex with many kind of molecules involved given that it acts as food for them. What sort of planet has such complex gases? [quote]Remember the hope that brought us here. Remember the age before the Whirlwind, when ether ran free, when we ruled ourselves and our futures as kings. We wanted more than glimmer and glints and herealways. Always remember that we came to this star in hope. And remember that we were denied! Remember the City of the Death of Children, the City That Docks, which claimed for itself the Great Machine that might have saved us. Remember the City that even now sends its ghouls to murder our Primes, starve our ether, and leave our young to die gasping. Curse that City and its name. The curse is just. (Ghost Fragment: Fallen 3)[/quote] [b]7) What's the deal with harbingers?[/b] Do they have physical forms? How did they first came to be? They are the balls of energy summoned by queen Mara Sov and her techeuns in the battle against Oryx. They manipulate gravity and attracted space debris to strike the dreadnaught. The weird thing is they are alive, they are minds, and they can reproduce by being planted in dead things. They are also some kind of trophy taken from an "ageless war." I have my own theories on the subject, but I am far from sure, and there's still many questions even if I'm right. [quote]Harbinger Minds they kept here, trophies from an ageless war, and weapons in the right hands. (The Coven)[/quote] [quote]The Harbingers, which to prepare?” [...] “All but one, the oldest. It stays with us. Sedia, Kalli, Shuro, take the children, tell her they are to be planted into a dead thing to have children of their own.” (The Coven)[/quote] [b]8) Why didn't the Vex time-loop Quria to make him stronger than Oryx?[/b] In question 4, I explained Hive sword logic, and how you can exploit it to become a god in a Hive throne world. The Vex did this when Crota was tricked into cutting a portal in Oryx's throne world, allowing them to invade (hence why Crota was exiled). Quria, a Vex mind, failed to beat Oryx, but I think he should have been able to very easily. Quria kills thousands of Hive to gain the sword logic and become a powerful god. Quria could go back in time to right before it killed those Hive, and repeat the process as a way to iteratively increase his sword logic. [b]9) What are the keyhole structures at A-113? What is the eye reported inside it?[/b] Dead Orbit found a station orbiting Ceres. They then found a series of structures like keyholes that go on for thousands of kilometers. Those that went inside the structures screamed in horror, and reported seeing some kind of eye. [quote]We abandoned the Sophia one-point-five days ago. We jumped ship for A-113. I don't know what else to call it. I don't know what it was built for. There are these things, like keyholes. The rangefinders say they go on for thousands of kilometers. The others went inside and found - well, some of them are still screaming about the eye. All the other voices that come back are more terrible. (Ghost Fragment: Dead Orbit)[/quote] [b]10) How do Awoken reproduce?[/b] There are many references to Awoken being born, yet the Eliksni say they are infertile. Given that Awoken are humans bonded to some sort of foreign entity, I would assume that Awoken use some kind of magic to make more of this foreign entity and bind them to humans (perhaps dead people, considering the inspiration for Awoken include angels and vampires). Were the first earthborn Awoken made during the collapse like those of the Reef? I can only guess, so what do you guys think? [quote]Inside me was an essence woven from beyond. Was I Awoken before this? (Ghost Fragment: Awoken 3)[/quote] [quote]Others were present at my birth. A great ceremony had just begun. Because newborns are selfish beasts, I assumed I was the object of attention. (Ghost Fragment: Awoken 2)[/quote] [quote]Earthborn Awoken who venture out to the Reef, hoping to learn its secrets, (Awoken)[/quote]. [b]For theories by me, I refer you to the [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/183288968/0/0]Collected Treatises of The Warlock KAGEHOSHI[/url].[/b]