originally posted in:Collective Of Knowledge
[quote] [b]Dreams of Alpha Lupi[/b]
The blaze sits inside a nest of little worlds, still too distant to share its heat but plainly staring out at you. A face emerges, drawn from plasmas and radiation
There must be meanings in its roar.
You listen hard and carefully, and sometimes a lucid melody seems to rise out of random noise. Joy builds, and the first hope in ages transforms you.
It seems important, even critical, to tell every star from here to the black between the galaxies that you will be strong again. [/quote]
Today we will be discussing the Dreams of Alpha Lupi.
The grimiore I just quoted suggests that alpha lupi is talking through your view on earth, most likely the city. This, in fact, suggests that alpha lupi may indeed be a omnipotent being, maybe even the traveler at that.
But we could not jump to this conclusion without hard evidence of such. So I shall provide it.
[quote] [b]Dreams of Alpha Lupi[/b]
One face is blistered, the other plunged into a brutal chill. Is this how its always been?
You remember hot oceans, nourishing atmosphere. But something transpired, kicked what was wet and fertile into space, stealing away everything of value. Or perhaps what thrived here for a day or for ten million years decided to leave, peeling its wet organics off the bone [/quote]
[u]You[/u] remember hot oceans
Alpha Lupi talks with such knowledge, but seems to act like the exact opposite.
To my point of view, perhaps she is the spirit of the traveler, always watching, but unknowing towards the Future or Present. She may only dream, but through us she can witness the revival of humanity, One step at a time.
More of this will come in the future
Debate shall be open,
[u]Thank you[/u]
[quote]Source: Ghost Fragment: Earth, Ghost Fragment: Mercury[/quote]
[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Clan/Post/769615/149114231/0/0]My Portfolio[/url]
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So much similarity to anonpigs posts, just shorter. Collective was a decent group until anons ego and the servitor kids mouth ruined it
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I thought Alpha Lupi was a guardian or was it an order? Idk[spoiler]help me[/spoiler]
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Alpha Lupi is the traveler. Those quotes in the various planet ghost fragments seem to be hazy memories of the travelers visits to the various planets in our system. My speculation is that the reason they are so hazy is due to the damage caused by Rasputin during the collapse. From these quotes, it is apparent to me that the traveler itself isn't evil, and has generally positive intentions. But the traveler is a machine, it has some form of sentience, (likely AI) and it was built for a purpose. The purpose appears to be terraforming and cultivating of civilizations. The garden and gardener references throughout the grimoire combined with alpha Lupi cards basically states as such. So best I can think of, is that either the traveler is genuinely well intentioned to help or the traveler is built for more nefarious intentions but is unaware of its role. More specifically, two lines of thought in my mind: Traveler is good. Some powers knew of the darkness, built the traveler, possibly hid themselves inside (some grimoire basis), send the traveler on a automated mission to build up other civilizations to do what the original builders of the traveler could not: defeat the darkness. Traveler is bad. Same start, powers knew of the darkness, built the traveler, knew the darkness would be drawn to the light of the traveler (like moth to a flame) and sent the traveler out to draw the darkness away towards other civilizations, in an effort to protect themselves. The traveler doesn't know it's efforts result in the darkness arriving wherever it goes. These are the two traveler scenarios I've come up with that don't violate the grimoire lore canon. I'm sure there are more equally or better ideas but this is what I arrived at.
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[quote][quote] [b]Dreams of Alpha Lupi[/b] The blaze sits inside a nest of little worlds, still too distant to share its heat but plainly staring out at you. A face emerges, drawn from plasmas and radiation There must be meanings in its roar. You listen hard and carefully, and sometimes a lucid melody seems to rise out of random noise. Joy builds, and the first hope in ages transforms you. It seems important, even critical, to tell every star from here to the black between the galaxies that you will be strong again. [/quote] Today we will be discussing the Dreams of Alpha Lupi. The grimiore I just quoted suggests that alpha lupi is talking through your view on earth, most likely the city. This, in fact, suggests that alpha lupi may indeed be a omnipotent being, maybe even the traveler at that. But we could not jump to this conclusion without hard evidence of such. So I shall provide it. [quote] [b]Dreams of Alpha Lupi[/b] One face is blistered, the other plunged into a brutal chill. Is this how its always been? You remember hot oceans, nourishing atmosphere. But something transpired, kicked what was wet and fertile into space, stealing away everything of value. Or perhaps what thrived here for a day or for ten million years decided to leave, peeling its wet organics off the bone [/quote] [u]You[/u] remember hot oceans Alpha Lupi talks with such knowledge, but seems to act like the exact opposite. To my point of view, perhaps she is the spirit of the traveler, always watching, but unknowing towards the Future or Present. She may only dream, but through us she can witness the revival of humanity, One step at a time. More of this will come in the future Debate shall be open, [u]Thank you[/u] [quote]Source: Ghost Fragment: Earth, Ghost Fragment: Mercury[/quote] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Clan/Post/769615/149114231/0/0]My Portfolio[/url][/quote] Alpha lupi means top wolf. More to this, the traveler looks like the cosmic egg, a band called mother wolf has an album called cosmic egg and the cover looks identical to the traveler. The traveler is an ancient being that was destroyed and created the shell to protect what little was left.
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Damn. I've been working on a super in depth post. At least now I have something to top. Good read bro
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I can't wait until we learn more about the traveler (and I guess the Speaker, Alpha Lupi, and early Eliksni as well).
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It's been theorized she is the good of the traveler or some part of thought for the traveler.
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