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Edited by SoulReaper9907:
1/15/2015 10:52:20 PM
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Actually you are telling people how to play the game, Sir. You made it clear right off that the reason for this post was to show all cheeses and that YOU wanted them patched so that people who, in your opinion, legitimately beat-as if that is really obtainable- the raid feel they have "earned" the gear. These are YOUR words, not ours!
You playing your way is no more or less legitimate than mine or anybody elses. Other than the Crota kneeling "exploit" the rest is using the games mechanics to beat it. That being said we are still talking about a video game. IMO using ammo synthesis because I don't follow the one shot one kill theory or using all my skills needed to preserve ammo and use what is on the "battlefield" is cheesing, and one cheese is not any worse than another. Using "hidy holes" because you are afraid during HM Vog or during strikes is "cheesing" as well but we all do what we need to in order to get through the GAME!
In short, we are all human, not one better than another. We all put our pants on one leg at a time. If you want the game "harder" then do it with your team and make rules for them to obey if broken, wipe and start from beginning like nightfall (or "old school gaming"). Challenge yourself and others, don't impose your will upon them. Begging Bungie to patch this is imposing your will.
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Actually I'm not. Bungie is. And they have made clear that exploits are not the right way to play. Destiny isn't your game you don't get to play how you want. You paid to play by their rules. And you're really pulling the "it's just a video game" card? By that logic lets just never try to fix problems in the game. It's just a game. You contradict yourself. You state that other then the kneeling glitch every other one was fine. Then you stated that all cheeses are equal. Pick and choose much? I don't care if people cheese. I do it. This thread's perpose was informational. To at best inform bungie of both exploits and bugs. Or at the least make aware of both bugs and exploits. Nothing more. However you take my words is in your head not mine. I never stated I think gear earned without exploits is better or anything along those lines. I stated I want people to feel like they earned it. It was a line meant to appeal to those that have that particular mindset.
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Not arguing, sorry you took it that way. And I did not say any "cheese" was ok or not ok. I stated that people are merely using the games mechanics to complete it. I did state that there are more than one way of cheesing, for example the hidy hole in the VoG or the hiding areas in the strikes, using ammo synthesis (IMO), staying up top to do templar and oracles, running through strikes and only fighting areas that need to be fought instead of killing everything. Again this is my opinion, not the way I think you should or should not play. The agreement we signed was for legal purposes to help bungie if ever sued. When the first group finished the Crota raid they actually "cheated", if you will. They had a member working on bounties getting his character to 31 then when at Crota they replaced a member with him so they could beat Crota. The first person to solo entire raid was lauded by Bungie themselves. Do you think he did the entire raid the way Bungie intended for it to be done? Not even close. I do not think I have the right to "do whatever I feel" in an MMO gaming environment, but I do have over $400 in this game, bought 2 games for 360 with expansion passes, one for xbox1 with expansion pass and 1 for ps3 with expansion pass. I really enjoy playing the game and I do not feel cheated because someone else found an easier way to play. I have over 728hrs of playing this game and plan to continue playing for a while. The people who only cheese there way through everything are usually not going to be around long enough in the gaming community because they did not grind, work, slave, whatever word you choose to inject here, to achieve a personal goal. The more effort put in will usually give you that false sense of entitlement but because of it you will usually stick with it longer. It sounds like you enjoy the game. Awesome! Keep gaming and remember not to let the little things bother you :)
