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12/31/2014 7:50:45 PM
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I literally HATE people like you, and you even have yourself! i know you're like what the hell is this guy talking about, I'll explain. You sir are a VILLIAN! you have the same logic and thought process of a dictator. Hitler also felt like everyone should do things the way he thought they should be done.......and we see where that went.Did you root for darth vader in the star wars movies? probably not because he was the bad guy, but here you are with the exact same logic. I have no doubt that if you COULD force us all to play your way you WOULD!!! Why don't you leave america and go to cuba or north korea ? you then could live under the type of dictatorship that you would impose on us. If you don't want to cheese crota ,fine I respect that, but stop trying to impose your will on others. Not trying to troll or flame you just want you to see how this comes across. this is a video game so please save your holier than thou attitude and get off your high horse. let people have fun the way they want to have fun. If I cheese crota it does not effect you in the slightest. And you may feel it's not fair to those who have done it legit, to that i'll say this... the game setup isn't fair to everyone. the raids are cool and all but you can't reach 32 without doing crotas end MULTIPLE TIMES. Everyone dosent have five friends to beat the raid with and even if you may have the five friends they may all be in different time zones. Also what if you aren't a kid and you have a job and small children? you most likely don't have time to sink 2-3 hours in on one mission. basically put the raid is not for everyone but they made it a necessity which is not fair.
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  • OK... There's so many things wrong with this post i can't begin to count them... Oh wait, yes I can. There's 3. 1. You're comparing someone who's simply stating glitches and cheese in an attempt to make a highly entertaining game work better to a horrible person who was responsible for the gruesome deaths of thousands of men, women, and children and one of the largest wars in history in a frankly insulting manner, particularly to people of certain ethnic groups. 2.If the author has such a "holier than though" attitude(which I'll admit I can see why you'd say that), it's most likely unintentional. He's probably just trying to improve on the game he loves. 3. Wasn't everyone rooting for Darth Vader in Star Wars(well, maybe second to Hans Solo.)? Next time you try to state your own opinions you might try to say it in a slightly more respectful and/or considerate way. Maybe that sounds hypocritical to you. I don't think any of this was. But I digress. Here's a link in case you couldn't understand some of the bigger words I used: www.dictionary.com

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  • I'm sorry if you were offended by my use of hitlers name, but I stand by my comparison. Of course i'm not saying that this guy is as bad as hitler that would be ridiculous, what I am saying is that this guy has that same "everything should be the way I like it and you should all be forced to do things my way" type of attitude. People like that really bug me. Now are you honestly telling me that you did not find his post obnoxious and pretentious? Lastly even though you were attacking my post I had respect for your post up until the end. I mean the insult would have been great if I had shown any trace of illiteracy. I love a good burn if it's funny and relevant.

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  • Edited by Art0ria: 1/14/2015 4:24:26 AM
    I stand by my post(especially number 3) except you're right about the last part. I'm sorry, that was indeed in bad taste. And also, I wasn't offended by the Hitler reference, and I can understand what you mean, it's just Hitler's name carries certain...connotations that probably weren't what you meant to say. And I could see a Jewish person taking offense. (Not that I'm trying to tell you what to do or anything LOL).

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  • You compared video game design to hitler. I think you need to re think some of your life choices. I'm not forcing anyone to do anything. I'm not bashing people who cheese. I encouraged it in my post. Bungie put hard mode off for a month so they can try and fix bugs/exploits first. All I'm doing is helping in that process. You agreed to tos when you play their game. You have little rights if any. If you can't or doesn't want to follow a games rules then don't play. This is a video game not real life.

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  • No I did not compare video game design to hitler. I compared your attitude with hitler's attitude. Also i'm quite sure bungie is aware of these bugs/exploits and they do not need your help. in addition I am very aware of the fact that destiny is just a video game which was one of my main points to you! its just a GAME why do you feel the need to be the video game police??? You have no right to tell me how to play and you have no way of enforcing anything. you're just a wannabe hall monitor. If you want to help bungie so bad then apply for a job, im sure they have openings in the tattle tell division.

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  • You grasp at straws and ignore what I've already told you. I'm not telling anyone how to play. But I'm done arguing. You clearly just wanted to insult me so were done.

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  • Edited by SoulReaper9907: 1/15/2015 10:52:20 PM
    Actually you are telling people how to play the game, Sir. You made it clear right off that the reason for this post was to show all cheeses and that YOU wanted them patched so that people who, in your opinion, legitimately beat-as if that is really obtainable- the raid feel they have "earned" the gear. These are YOUR words, not ours! You playing your way is no more or less legitimate than mine or anybody elses. Other than the Crota kneeling "exploit" the rest is using the games mechanics to beat it. That being said we are still talking about a video game. IMO using ammo synthesis because I don't follow the one shot one kill theory or using all my skills needed to preserve ammo and use what is on the "battlefield" is cheesing, and one cheese is not any worse than another. Using "hidy holes" because you are afraid during HM Vog or during strikes is "cheesing" as well but we all do what we need to in order to get through the GAME! In short, we are all human, not one better than another. We all put our pants on one leg at a time. If you want the game "harder" then do it with your team and make rules for them to obey if broken, wipe and start from beginning like nightfall (or "old school gaming"). Challenge yourself and others, don't impose your will upon them. Begging Bungie to patch this is imposing your will.

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  • Actually I'm not. Bungie is. And they have made clear that exploits are not the right way to play. Destiny isn't your game you don't get to play how you want. You paid to play by their rules. And you're really pulling the "it's just a video game" card? By that logic lets just never try to fix problems in the game. It's just a game. You contradict yourself. You state that other then the kneeling glitch every other one was fine. Then you stated that all cheeses are equal. Pick and choose much? I don't care if people cheese. I do it. This thread's perpose was informational. To at best inform bungie of both exploits and bugs. Or at the least make aware of both bugs and exploits. Nothing more. However you take my words is in your head not mine. I never stated I think gear earned without exploits is better or anything along those lines. I stated I want people to feel like they earned it. It was a line meant to appeal to those that have that particular mindset.

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  • Not arguing, sorry you took it that way. And I did not say any "cheese" was ok or not ok. I stated that people are merely using the games mechanics to complete it. I did state that there are more than one way of cheesing, for example the hidy hole in the VoG or the hiding areas in the strikes, using ammo synthesis (IMO), staying up top to do templar and oracles, running through strikes and only fighting areas that need to be fought instead of killing everything. Again this is my opinion, not the way I think you should or should not play. The agreement we signed was for legal purposes to help bungie if ever sued. When the first group finished the Crota raid they actually "cheated", if you will. They had a member working on bounties getting his character to 31 then when at Crota they replaced a member with him so they could beat Crota. The first person to solo entire raid was lauded by Bungie themselves. Do you think he did the entire raid the way Bungie intended for it to be done? Not even close. I do not think I have the right to "do whatever I feel" in an MMO gaming environment, but I do have over $400 in this game, bought 2 games for 360 with expansion passes, one for xbox1 with expansion pass and 1 for ps3 with expansion pass. I really enjoy playing the game and I do not feel cheated because someone else found an easier way to play. I have over 728hrs of playing this game and plan to continue playing for a while. The people who only cheese there way through everything are usually not going to be around long enough in the gaming community because they did not grind, work, slave, whatever word you choose to inject here, to achieve a personal goal. The more effort put in will usually give you that false sense of entitlement but because of it you will usually stick with it longer. It sounds like you enjoy the game. Awesome! Keep gaming and remember not to let the little things bother you :)

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  • Grasping at straws? how so? please elaborate. You are trying to play both sides of the fence, which may work with the idiots but you can't jedi mind trick me. Your post is self explanatory. you yourself put how YOU want people to feel like they earned it. Excuse me maybe I missed something but......... WHO THE F*CK ARE YOU???? No really who are you to dictate how I should feel when playing a game I bought with my money? Whether you want to admit it or not you are a GIANT DOUCHE for that post. The kid that nobody liked because he was too busy brown nosing the teacher to make friends, the kid that never got included so he snitched on everybody all the time. What do you think is going to happen? you think bungie is going to recognize you? maybe hire you? you and Deej gonna be best buds? but that friendship will end quick when you get Deej fired for stealing post its because you wanted him to feel like he earned his post its.

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  • I've been soloing this raid and love it that way. Don't be a D O U C H E . Who cares on how it's done. Are you doing all this ? No? So who gives a -blam!-

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  • He wasn't trying to impose this on anyone just trying to help out people that don't know how to cheese if they want. Calm down mister and breath and remember; no one cares.

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  • Exactly i feel the same beside just like vog they fixed exploits and never actually fixed the problems

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