I've a doubt, sorry if I can't expose it very accurate because my knowledge english is limited. It's really a console matter than we cannot have 20-30 players at the same time? For what I know, the only thing traveling between consoles end and Destiny servers is data. I mean, player position, id weapon, ammo amount, and things like that. Many MMOs handle that and much more data than Destiny does, but I haven't seen a MMO with graphics like Destiny. thus, are the Graphics the problem? Consoles really can't handle a few hundreds of Mobs at the time, nor more than 12 players + mobs?