Listen, exotic weapons are not meant to be the end all be all of weaponry. They are exotic, which means they do special things they have different cosmetic values. I really don't understand the bullshit bitching it is very ignorant and stupid. This game I have concluded is for people of some intelligence, not inbredding Call of Duty barbarians of whom lack the simplistic critical thinking skills of a Third grader. For christ sake, look up the word exotic and then proceed to look up the word legendary. Edit- Here i've decided to help you comprehend the difference. Main Entry: leg·end·ary Pronunciation: \ˈle-jən-ˌder-ē, -ˌde-rē\ Function: adjective Date: circa 1587 1 : of, relating to, or characteristic of legend or a legend 2 : well-known, famous — leg·en·dari·ly \ˌle-jən-ˈder-ə-lē, -ˈde-rə-\ adverb Here is exotic for you Main Entry: 1ex·ot·ic Pronunciation: \ig-ˈzä-tik\ Function: adjective Etymology: Latin exoticus, from Greek exōtikos, from exō Date: 1599 1 : introduced from another country : not native to the place where found <exotic plants> 2 archaic : foreign, alien 3 : strikingly, excitingly, or mysteriously different or unusual <exotic flavors> 4 : of or relating to striptease <exotic dancing> — ex·ot·i·cal·ly \-ti-k(ə-)lē\ adverb — ex·ot·ic·ness \-tik-nəs\ noun Figure it out and churn out some brain power. I know it is hard for many of you to accept, but bungie thought that a vast majority of gamers were somewhat educated. Things have changed, they are now bumbling bros who couldn't tell thier left from thier right let alone critically think Which in this case doesn't require critical Thinking just common sense. Which is also something a vast majority of people are missing these days. Anywho, I am done with my rant. I patiently await your idiotic rebuttal. Sincerely Sir Scrote.

Thorn is okay at the minute but juju is atrocious

Thorn only needs a bigger mag (maybe up to 8 shots) and faster reload speeds, other than that, the damage is great. And stability needs no change, because of it obviously being a handcannon.

Bad Juju needs a buff as soon as possible, I got it a week ago and I was completely dissapointed. It looks great, really good damage, but I can't kill enemies fast enough because I have to reload every two bursts. It takes me a lot of time to kill a Phalanx, and trying to kill Valus Ta'aurc is a nightmare. I know it's a pulse rifle and not a scout one, but either way, it should be a DECENT weapon considering it is Exotic.

Only buff juju needs is a higher magazine. 15 rounds is way too small, especially if it's full auto as well.

They're probably still working on it. It will ready when it's ready.

Can anyone tell me why thorn needs a buff? It's a 3 shot hand cannon already.

Hotfixes will be anounced tomorrow. Every monday (in the netherlands) they post the hotfixes and the day after they are implemented. And every saturday they anounce game changes like events

Bump. BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP. That is all.

It causes a lot less havoc to accidently over nerf a weapon then accidently buff a weapon to a point it -blam!-s everyone and they are pissed till next patch and refuse to pvp. Where as with a nerf...simply use a different gun...

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thorn is already extremely good in crucible. three shots to the body is a kill with the poison damage upgrade. the only thing I would like is a better reload speed. bad juju on the other hand...good god. the length of the bounty itself warrants much better performance. at least a higher capacity mag

Nerf green ball on end of bad juju.

The issue with these exotics is they are utterly inferior to even blue equivalents until you can upgrade them. But getting to their signature perks are extremely painful. Base exotics need to be just as good as legendarys, and when you choose to unlock is signature perk, it should come with a downside, so as not to have op exotics... Like the suros already is.

Do you even hear your argument? The buff to 2 guns is not as needed as the adjustments to the others. Vex was overly powerful and breaking the game, though now it is a little too weak. The other changes were on a broader scale. Changing the two guns would not have as large of an impact as the changes that were made. At the time of the change to the Mythoclast, a majority of the players knew about the gun, and at the time they mentioned the thorn and bad juju buffs, the Mythoclast was not yet an issue as it was not widely used. They stated that the changes to those two guns would come by the end of the year, they did not give any promise to it being any time soon. So yelling about it not being done yet is pointless. I have both and would like them to be more useful, but there are plenty of other items to be used until that time comes.