(EDIT) !!!!!!!!!!!!TO THE OP OF THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Can you please post a video of you playing iron banner just like these others [b]BUT[/b] [u]with your lvl 30, best armor. Best guns[/u]. Seeing as it will be from the same person with the same play style and gameplay attributes, lets see the difference. (ORIGINAL) Alright. Lemme get this straight. 1 - In crucible my silvered caracas fully leveled takes two body shots to kill. Every time. 2 - In Iron Banner, on a highly upgraded armor opponent takes three. 3 - In crucible my red death can drop someone in two bursts to the head if all the shots land. 4 - In Iron Banner against lower leveled opponents I can pretty much one burst. Two bursts, sometimes three against higher levels. So wheres the bullshit? How were you lied to? They said the best armor and the best weapons will be crucial. From what I can tell in Iron Banner either highly upgraded will make you kill faster and last longer, exactly what they said it would do. I have no idea what you guys were expecting? "Im level 30 so i should be able to take rockets to the head and make this guy explode when I finger-flick his nipple." If you have highly upgraded gear you have an apparent advantage in Iron Banner, although its slight you still have the advantage. Isnt that the whole point? Could you imagine what you whiners would be crying about if it was balanced the other way? all one shots? or unloading entire clips to break someones shield? Wake up. So what it comes down to is who can out-aim, out-shoot, out-think and out-maneuver his opponents to make a kill. And well to me, thats competitive gameplay.