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Can you please post a video of you playing iron banner just like these others [b]BUT[/b] [u]with your lvl 30, best armor. Best guns[/u].
Seeing as it will be from the same person with the same play style and gameplay attributes, lets see the difference.
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Alright. Lemme get this straight.
1 - In crucible my silvered caracas fully leveled takes two body shots to kill. Every time.
2 - In Iron Banner, on a highly upgraded armor opponent takes three.
3 - In crucible my red death can drop someone in two bursts to the head if all the shots land.
4 - In Iron Banner against lower leveled opponents I can pretty much one burst. Two bursts, sometimes three against higher levels.
So wheres the bullshit? How were you lied to? They said the best armor and the best weapons will be crucial. From what I can tell in Iron Banner either highly upgraded will make you kill faster and last longer, exactly what they said it would do. I have no idea what you guys were expecting? "Im level 30 so i should be able to take rockets to the head and make this guy explode when I finger-flick his nipple."
If you have highly upgraded gear you have an apparent advantage in Iron Banner, although its slight you still have the advantage. Isnt that the whole point? Could you imagine what you whiners would be crying about if it was balanced the other way? all one shots? or unloading entire clips to break someones shield? Wake up.
So what it comes down to is who can out-aim, out-shoot, out-think and out-maneuver his opponents to make a kill. And well to me, thats competitive gameplay.
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A lvl 4 should do all of 0 damage to a lvl 30 and idk wtf is wrong with your gun but mine kills in 2 shots still I see no difference
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Who cares? If you are any good at the game, have good skill you squash anyone 25 and lower like a bug. IRON BANNER IS FOR SKILLED PLAYERS. NOT UNSKILLED PLAYERS WITH GOOD GEAR. ITS A COMPETITIVE GAMETYPE. The videos even prove that, yeah so you could have the best stuff out there but if you cant hit the guy you aren't going to kill him. Real simple. So who gives a flying -blam!- if they give everyone a chance to play Iron Banner? You guys think that it should be like PvE for some reason, why? who dreamt up that is how it should be? I have no idea how you cant tell the difference for me is apparent. I can even feel each damage upgrade to the red death.
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Before you call me unskilled you should really check my stats I'm not half bad at the crucible and I still think this is awful
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WELL SAID!! I agree 100%, however he is pretty good
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!!!!!!!!!!!!TO THE OP OF THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Can you please post a video of you playing iron banner just like these others [b]BUT[/b] [u]with your lvl 30, best armor. Best guns[/u]. Seeing as it will be from the same person with the same play style and gameplay attributes, lets see the difference.
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Noticed no difference with the red death, thorn, last word, shingen-e, corrective measure, redhand IX, aries nemesis X4, proxima centauri II, unwilling soul-09 and strange suspect. Also there is a video of a lvl 4 Warlock taking and dealing the same damage as you would expect in regular pvp. Those guns range from fully upgraded to no upgrades and some I upgraded in-between matches. As for your little speech about skill, we have the crucible modes for that, the idea and appeal of the iron banner was to see how OP you can get by bringing out your best weapons and armor, that is how it was marketed and what it failed to deliver on. The common theme here seems to be release the same content only with a few bounties and some slight alterations to the rewards. The fact that someone like Deej is coming out and saying oh we will explain why this game mode plays nothing like it was advertised half way through the week long event, it is understandable why people would throw around words like liars and incompetent.
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This seems to fly in the face of all of the video evidence I've personally seen as well as my own anecdotal evidence in the Iron Banner, limited as it is. So, not really sure what to make of it except to say it appears you're having a unique experience in my observation.
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Iron banner supposedly has level advantages activated, right? So in theory it should work similar to PvE, because they are active there as well. A level 1 couldn't even damage an enemy that is level 20 because their weapons are too weak and the enemies armor is too strong. Iron banner? Guns do the exact same damage to everyone no matter who you're fighting. Try it for yourself. Pick a gun, and use it for a few games. Pay attention to the damage that you do on each person depending on their level. You will do the exact same no matter who you're fighting. THAT proves that level advantages are not working.
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Dirt nap, I just want to say that I recognize your GT from a match the other night. That is all.
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I've done more than enough damage testing to tell you that most of your points are false. You'd have to find my post amongst all the others in here however.
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You.. [spoiler]i like you[/spoiler]
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THIS, ALL OF THIS.