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I'll be addressing this in the Weekly Update. Preview: Power Matters, but so does skill.
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  • Edited by MontiE1824: 10/9/2014 8:41:09 PM
    Not to be a dick but after everything that has happened since launch, were you actually surprised this game mode didn't deliver? Do you feel like you wasted all that time now? Should I be happier that I didn't spend all that time that you did because I can still compete in iron banner? Should I be mad and rant that because I have a life and a family that I can't play certain game modes that I payed for just like you? Questions man, questions. I'm not defending Bungie at all and understand your beef, it's wrong, very wrong what became of this entire game. I hope months down the road we will all forget about how Destiny started but it wouldn't surprise me if it never delivered a THE experience we all thought it would.

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  • Very true. I understand why people are mad but I honestly just wanted them to get this one big thing right. Iron banner was so hyped to be a really big thing and a core concept of the game so I figured they'd at least do THIS right. Trying real hard to give them benefit of the doubt when I can. But this one is a big screw up. I was surprised because I didn't think they'd blatantly fail at something so crucial... Plenty of ppl I know that were using Iron Banner as the determining factor of whether to stay or go... Honestly it might really come down to what you just said.. if things are just gonna be like this with Bungie just throwing out whatever they can to try and keep us around then maybe it is time to accept that it just won't be the game we thought it'd be.

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  • It is unfortunate. I logged into iron banner with a big smile expecting to get wrecked like it was nobodies business! Then I go on a killing spree of 16-0 in my second match and I was like, hmm, either in amazingly good all of a sudden, everyone in playing sucks ass at four levels above me, or this just isn't supposed to happen. It was weird but I'm glad I could compete in it. The people who have had more time, I get their complaint and understand their frustration. Iron banner could be a deal breaker for most but honestly the second time this rolls around it will be different. Either way, you're either going to roll with this game or you're going to trade it in for something else. I'm going to roll with it and expect the very least until they impress me. I have not been able to do the raid because of poor drops but I did get my first legendary chest piece today at lunch from iron banner. Still stuck at 24 though.

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  • I really hope so man. It was a disappointment to me only because I was just craving that pvp end game. I'm pretty good at pvp and I enjoy it alot. My goal going into Iron Banner was to get my gear high enough to the point where I could at least hang with lvl 30s (im a 28) and it'd feel like most matches were winnable. After playing awhile I realized that there just isn't any difference and its even a far cry from what it was back during testing. VoG and stuff is nice but that only covered the pve section of the game, which honestly isn't really what I'm into. Would rather be up against living people testing my skill and having a good time. Grinded my ass off to get mats/upgrade materials just to find yeah.. I really didn't have to lol. But yes. Let's hope they can get this one right next time. They really need it with the lack of a leaderboard/rank system in game. Its really the only pseudo-end game pvp that they have. Til then its competing with ppl through destiny tracker i suppose lol

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  • Didn't read, lmao!!

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  • Man DeeJ this guy gets it(as do I he mirrors some of my own sentiments exactly). I love Bungie and have since Halo circa 2001, But your Bungies credibility with the community is fast fading. Right the ship now.

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  • Well said good read

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  • You need a tldr version

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  • I'm trying to find one thats right but can't really do it -_-'. The problem is i'll have to leave something out n then deal with the wrath of ppl bringing up the crap I left out and its back to square one lol

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  • I dont envy you in your task sir. Best of luck, and my condolences should your efforts be insufficient.......which is a likely outcome...

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  • When is the weekly update?

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  • Really? because it seems power doesn't matter at all.

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  • [quote]Power Matters, but so does skill.[/quote] [url=http://prntscr.com/4ufzh5]Screenshot[/url] Hehe, yes....skill

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  • I have no problem with this statement, and I'm a level 29 warlock.

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  • Why the wu? Why not now? In PvE Thorn does full damage, in PvP it only does a measly percentile of that, plus, the lingering damage only does 7? Why not 50 like in "story mode?"

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  • Power Matters 1%, skill Matters 99% ? =D

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  • Wow I demand a full explanation bungie! He should've been one shoted the whole game! His weapon should not have done any damage at all. This is a complete an total outrage. As a loyal fan and consumer of all things bungie from the first day halo: combat evolved launched on original Xbox, I demand a response!

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  • Take your level 28-30 character with exotics and legendaries, then go to the Patrol on the Cosmodrome. Go to the area where you scan that ship and sit there. Level 2 characters will shoot at you, you will take damage, and you will die if you sit there. And it won't take very long. Greater gear does not mean invincibility.

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  • Edited by Hiryu69: 10/9/2014 2:49:25 PM
    Do that same thing with a level 4-8 character, find the hidden lvl 18 Hive after you scan the console(hole in the wall dark area down stairs) use that same gun or any gun up to lvl 8. It wont matter NOTHING you will do will scratch them(didnt in beta or full game as i tried). This is what we were told Iron Banner would be: a mode where level advantages mattered. They dont. No lvl 4 in Iron Banner should be able to touch anyone with legendary armor ESPECIALLY with the starting gun. In PVE your armor has to have light to significantly damage(or at all if your light isnt enough) enemies higher level than you, this is what should happen here. Would this lead to lvl 28-30s easily defeating lvl 20-27s(im a lvl 27 hunter), yes if gear alone was what mattered. But if I play smart enough,fight hard enough I could still get kills it would just be harder and each kill earned would be that much sweeter because my skill would make the difference. I feel as do others i was robbed of this challenge and you should too. Bungie needs to fix this, then extend iron Banner for a week. And if they can get it running as it should, then put it in the crucible playlist PERMANENTLY so PVP has its own endgame.

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  • Ok, now make a brand new character, get to level 4, and join your level 28 friends fire team. Try and play the weekly heroic at max level with your level 4. Let me know how that works out for you. Your argument only works in one direction.

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  • They won't let you launch the weekly heroic with that setup but I see your point. Been there done that. Well actually didn't do that but you get it.

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  • Haha u r so funny

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  • [quote]Preview: Power Matters, but so does skill.[/quote] Please make up your mind, skill mattered in Crucible where everybody was normalized, the very least Iron Banner could do was make us feel like we had equipment on, or like 50% equipment mattered and 50% skill. In the vid above it clearly shows power does not matter at all.....

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  • One thing I think people miss is the actual power of the gun not the attack rating but the impact which is the damage per shot

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  • no damage is the damage per shot

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